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re: Jordan Jefferson
Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:43 pm to ScoopAndScore
Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:43 pm to ScoopAndScore
right ... that's my point. You're evaluating Aaron Brooks' ability to QB in the NFL, after having been in the NFL for several yrs, against a young freshman/sophomore QB's ability to play QB in the SEC. It's not a valid comparison. I have no problem saying Brooks had his shot, he had some success but ultimately did not have what it takes to be an NFL QB. I'm not prepared to make the same sort of judgment on a young QB who is still learning and growing. Capiche?
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Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:46 pm to More beer please
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We cant just say, oh well if this guy doesnt work lets try someone else, because eventually we are going to run out of qbs
seems to work for every other team, in every sport in america...Its called competition..
Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:48 pm to TigerFan55555
Some people don't understand that players work harder, practise harder than those that are just given starting roles.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:50 pm to Jdawgz
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Some people don't understand that players work harder, practise harder than those that are just given starting roles.
thats because they never played beyond pee-wee...
Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:52 pm to TigerFan55555
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Its called competition
Do you just respond to what you think I said or do you actually read it?
Yeah thats it, after a guy has a bad games lets take him out of the lineup every time. There goes the chemistry. So according to your thoughts JL sucked so he is out, JJ "sucked" so he is out, therefore CG is the next guy up. What if he blows, do we throw in a walkon qb?
Posted on 2/26/10 at 12:59 pm to More beer please
Seems to me Lee has been given more of enough of a chance to show what he can do. Hard to erase from the memory banks the pick six a game season. But let's look at this past season - I don't remember what game Lee played in, but he looked bad -- one positive thing you could've said about him in comparison to Jefferson was that Lee had a stronger arm and snapped off passes, but the game he played in this past season, his passes weren't crisp, no spiral, he was just chunking it off his back foot, not standing in the pocket. I don't like to cut bait on ANYONE and believe everyone is due his fair chance, but geez, I think I'll seen enough of Lee to say he doesn't appear to be an SEC starting QB. Jefferson? I'd have to say he hasn't set the SEC on fire, but, I think if you look at his passing percentage, running/scrambling ability, TD to INT ratio, he's probably middle of the pack in the SEC, and, yes, I would presume he will only get better. Love to see Garrett get in some ballgames and see what he can do under fire, and if he's more productive than JJ, by all means start him.
This post was edited on 2/26/10 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:04 pm to Elleshoe
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Matt Mauck fricking sucked against real competition dude. His TD/INT ratio was actually NEGATIVE against the better teams in 2003.
You are only about stats and that is your problem. The difference is that Mauk and Flynn were LEADERS.They did not pout when things did not go their way, they sucked it up and drove on.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:08 pm to TigerJeff
I would have to agree with most of your comment, but IMHO, JJ hasn't shown where he can be a good SEC QB. Yes he had 60% completion, but the passes were behind the lOS and within 3 yds. He looked horrible throwing down field, has no pocket presence, looks confused on the field, can't hit moving WR, and doesn't understand game situations.
I don't think people on here are saying JL should be the starter or even given a chance, but they are saying we should also just hand it over to JJ. All QBs should have their shot in Spring and Fall and if one is Head and shoulders above the rest then he should start.
I don't think people on here are saying JL should be the starter or even given a chance, but they are saying we should also just hand it over to JJ. All QBs should have their shot in Spring and Fall and if one is Head and shoulders above the rest then he should start.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:09 pm to More beer please
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Yeah thats it, after a guy has a bad games lets take him out of the lineup every time.
yes, thats called competition, if one guys not getting it done, put the guy behind them in...you never played anything growing up did you?
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There goes the chemistry
same chemistry that got us ranked 112th on offense...
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JL sucked so he is out, JJ "sucked" so he is out, therefore CG is the next guy up. What if he blows
its called recruiting, both have had time to show what they can do...
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:09 pm to Jdawgz
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but the passes were behind the lOS and within 3 yds. He looked horrible throwing down field, has no pocket presence, looks confused on the field, can't hit moving WR, and doesn't understand game situations.
You guys hate on him so much it makes me sick. What did he do good then?
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:11 pm to More beer please
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You guys hate on him so much it makes me sick. What did he do good then?
auburn game, he looked good...got no problems saying it...give credit where its due...
but you guys, consistently go to stats, stats, stats, they are inflated, his completion % was high cause he didnt throw it away, it was also high b/c we threw nothing but simple throws, 10 yard hitches, square ins...Nothing was on the run, nothing was deep, defenses drueled to play us...play calling was that way BECAUSE thats all that he could do well...it limited the offense and the offense suffered...again, I hope he learns more cause it puts less strain on the o-line, backs, WR's, and the coaches...
This post was edited on 2/26/10 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:15 pm to More beer please
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You guys hate on him so much it makes me sick. What did he do good then?
We hate on him just like you hate on JL. It is ok to display one QB's mistakes but not another. I don't understand.
You don't know anything about me and I don't hate JJ. I was pulling for him to get in the game in 2008 and wanted him starting last year.
If you believe that JJ should be our starter then that is your opinion. My opinion is the one who earns it in the spring and fall should be started. Whether is is JJ, JL, CG, RS, ZL, I don't care. I
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:15 pm to TigerFan55555
All I see are these comments
"weak arm, cant throw downfield, bad pocket presence, not a leader, cant run the option, doesnt make reads, holds on to the ball too long, stares down recievers, cant throw to a running WR, scared, doesnt look off defense, gets sacked too much"
WTF does he do right, he is starting so there has to be something.
"weak arm, cant throw downfield, bad pocket presence, not a leader, cant run the option, doesnt make reads, holds on to the ball too long, stares down recievers, cant throw to a running WR, scared, doesnt look off defense, gets sacked too much"
WTF does he do right, he is starting so there has to be something.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:16 pm to TigerJeff
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Love to see Garrett get in some ballgames and see what he can do under fire, and if he's more productive than JJ, by all means start him.
all i wanna see, if he's not better, play JJ, who ever is better b/t all of them...
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:19 pm to More beer please
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he is starting so there has to be something.
its called theres no one else.
that doesnt make it deserving, you rant about how deserving he is.
whats wrong with a little competition now that we have another QB here?
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:20 pm to Jdawgz
dude had an outstanding game in a hostile environment at UGA, made some absolutely clutch passes and runs
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:21 pm to TigerFan55555
Seems to me Lee has been given more of enough of a chance to show what he can do. Hard to erase from the memory banks the pick six a game season. But let's look at this past season - I don't remember what game Lee played in, but he looked bad -- one positive thing you could've said about him in comparison to Jefferson was that Lee had a stronger arm and snapped off passes, but the game he played in this past season, his passes weren't crisp, no spiral, he was just chunking it off his back foot, not standing in the pocket. I don't like to cut bait on ANYONE and believe everyone is due his fair chance, but geez, I think I'll seen enough of Lee to say he doesn't appear to be an SEC starting QB. Jefferson? I'd have to say he hasn't set the SEC on fire, but, I think if you look at his passing percentage, running/scrambling ability, TD to INT ratio, he's probably middle of the pack in the SEC, and, yes, I would presume he will only get better. Love to see Garrett get in some ballgames and see what he can do under fire, and if he's more productive than JJ, by all means start him.
good post
good post
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:22 pm to TigerJeff
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dude had an outstanding game in a hostile environment at UGA, made some absolutely clutch passes and runs
Where were these Clutch passes and runs the rest of the year.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:24 pm to TigerFan55555
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you rant about how deserving he is
Quote where I said he deserves anything. I understand he gets it by default but he is doing some things right whether you acknowledge that or not.
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whats wrong with a little competition now that we have another QB here?
Go look back over my posts. I like competion, but for those of you who actually think JL has a shot then I am sorry. You will be dissappointed.
Posted on 2/26/10 at 1:33 pm to Jdawgz
I guess I'm a little confused. Are some of you folks actually criticizing Jefferson for the expression on his face? So if Lee throws a pick six a game but has a suitable expression on his face, that's OK?
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