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Posted on 5/11/12 at 4:29 pm to bnicho2
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don't have to hope Obama screws up...I have watched him systematically screw America up for the last 3 years. Holds the record in debt, vacations, golf, fundraisers, and on and on. He needs to play in traffic.
You have him confused with Bush.
Inherited a surplus, left with debt. Two wars. Left country in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. The "Great Recession" was Bush's legacy. W left America with a giant shite sandwich and we all got to take a bite.
Keep on believing that shite your shoveling!!
Posted on 5/11/12 at 5:14 pm to JohnnyU
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Inherited a surplus, left with debt. Two wars. Left country in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. The "Great Recession" was Bush's legacy. W left America with a giant shite sandwich and we all got to take a bite.
I'm sure this rightly belongs on Political Talk but since it showed up I'll respond (and it's not an apology for Bush):
The financial crisis mentioned was precipitated by Frank, Dodd, et al and their silly push for "afforable housing." Not Bush's fault though his equally silly TARP contributes to the mess.
As far Obama, he has done zero to preserve the Republic and seemingly everthing to dismantle it.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 5:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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the Bucs have better options than Jarrett Lee
So did LSU last year
BOOM!
And hey RickJJ'sDaddy. Spare us your revisionist stories. Some of us with IQ's above single digits remember things better than you do. I guess boxcar is busy helping JJ move out of his 5 BR house he bought in Tampa (I think they were THAT delusional), so you're the SwagCap du jour. Unless you can backup your BS with spreadsheets, you won't keep that position for long.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 6:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Give it up. No one believes this crap anymore.
Go find one post where I say JLee shouldn't start. Just one! You can't. JUST BECAUSE I WANT LEE TO START , DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T HAVE EYES. I can see he struggled as well. I pull for both qb's. You can't find one post where I say Lee should lose his job. Just because I state positives about JJ doesn't mean I think he should start. Unlike you I'm not entrenched in either qb camp. I've never met JJ , I have met JLee and I liked him immensely. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I CAN'T SEE HE HAD HIS OWN STRUGGLES.
ETA: like I care ,if someone like you , believes me. Why on earth would I not speak what I really believe on here? To appease someone who doesn't know me?
This post was edited on 5/11/12 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 5/11/12 at 6:33 pm to TigerNlc
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A better QB rating! Well that settles it then.
Yes! Let's diregard the one stat that shows how good a qb was over a period of time because I hate JJ. Some of you lead pitiful lives. I really don't understand all the hate. It's like the posters whom made fun of JLee for tugging at his shoulder pads except with JJ , it's his facial expressions
Posted on 5/11/12 at 6:37 pm to LandOwners
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So he got worse each year then instead of getting better?
Yes he did. I wish JLee and JJ could've had COach Krags for their qb year at LSU. JLee has a perfect throwing motion and I think coach Krag could've helped with his happy feet when the pocket started to close.
I firmly believe JJ was a project qb and was never supposed to start until his JR year. His throwing motion is drawn out and has a problem reading defenses pre snap.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 6:40 pm to roygu
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Since you are his self appointed agent, did you send that information to Tampa? If you hadn't kept that hidden maybe Seattle would have drafted JJ as Flynn's backup.
Yes I'm his agent because I stated a fact that was a positive about A TIGER and it wast a post calling him shite and saying hell flip burgers. Yes that makes me his agent.
Look, JJ sucked for about 60% of his career. He still went out there and tried his hardest. It wasn't JJ that kept putting him in the starting lineup.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 6:42 pm to Housplants
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This is one of my all time favorite examples of statistics not correlating with reality. If taking unnecessary sacks was factored into QB rating, JJ would have been dead last in QB rating that season. He killed more drives by taking terrible sacks that season than can be imagined. On top of that, the passes he did throw and complete on 3rd down were almost always short of the 1st down marker (as stated by someone else in the thread).
See he only had 8 more sacks than Flynn though. Without a running game. We ran for less than 50 yards 4 times and ran for 170 as a team jut twice. While during 07 we ran for 3000 yards.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 7:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
please stop trying to argue this point,anyone with eyes knows Flynn was better in '07 than JJ ever was.I'm not saying Flynn was great,he wasn't,he was a good game manager.JJ was never even that.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 8:02 pm to JBeam
It's amazing that it only took the Bucs to figure out something that took LSU forever.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 8:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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See he only had 8 more sacks than Flynn though. Without a running game. We ran for less than 50 yards 4 times and ran for 170 as a team jut twice. While during 07 we ran for 3000 yards.
Damn you're persistent. Has anyone ever bothered to tell you that a team is much more effective running the ball when there's actually a threat to pass the ball? VERY few teams can run the ball when the defense knows you can't throw it.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 8:17 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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See he only had 8 more sacks than Flynn though. Without a running game. We ran for less than 50 yards 4 times and ran for 170 as a team jut twice. While during 07 we ran for 3000 yards.
In his third year as a starter he matched Flynn's stats in Flynn's only year as a starter. Since the running game is always used to prop your argument against Flynn, do you ever consider maybe Flynn's understanding of the game and ability to read defenses contributed to the running game.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 8:34 pm to roygu
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do you ever consider maybe Flynn's understanding of the game and ability to read defenses contributed to the running game.
No, he doesn't, because that would be counter to his agenda.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 10:09 pm to 1984Tiger
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Damn you're persistent. Has anyone ever bothered to tell you that a team is much more effective running the ball when there's actually a threat to pass the ball? VERY few teams can run the ball when the defense knows you can't throw it.
I'm persistent because facts are on my side. JJ had a higher yards per attempt( which debunks the little 6 yards passing comment) and had a higher compl % than Flynn did, but Flynn is this all world qb on here and JJ is the worst qb to ever play for LSU.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 10:13 pm to 1984Tiger
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No, he doesn't, because that would be counter to his agenda.
What agenda? JJ isn't on the roster. I didnt even want him as the starter last year, but i sit here and be happy because his dream was crushed. I've been in his position and I'm positive that all these posters that are showing their happiness over this, has never had their dreams of suing a sport professionally crushed.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 10:14 pm to tigerblood29
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please stop trying to argue this point,anyone with eyes knows Flynn was better in '07 than JJ ever was.I'm not saying Flynn was great,he wasn't,he was a good game manager.JJ was never even that.
See FACTS back up my statements. Opinion backs up yours.
Posted on 5/12/12 at 2:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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See FACTS back up my statements.
If your "facts" are suggesting that JJ is comparable to Flynn as a QB then I'll be the first to suggest that your models are flawed. IOW, they simply aren't giving you/us the whole picture.
Here's a fact about Flynn: in CFB and NFL his O has never scored less than 27 pts in regulation in games he started. That's somthing neither Tebow, Cam, Bradford can say.
In his only season to start at LSU, our O faced a veritable who's who of D coordinators (Foster (VT), Strong, Muschamp, Saban, Chavis, Heacock)and toyed with them.
This is even more impressive when you consider that we only had one WR returning (Early - who also was hurt much of '07), another with a bad case of the drops (LaFell), a new OC, new WR coach, and a new OL coach for that season.
Posted on 5/12/12 at 3:32 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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