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re: Joe Burrow, 5-Wide & 5 in Pass Protection? "It Means the World"
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:23 am to crazy4lsu
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:23 am to crazy4lsu
quote:Then why are zero passing offenses using it as their primary formation.
Again, there is no indication that the Tight formation used in the first half was the problem.
Answer: Because it sucks as a passing formation.
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:24 am to dukke v
quote:
This is exactly what he is doing..
He is, and he gets really defensive when you call him out on it. When someone calls a spade a spade he calls it abuse. He's not an LSU fan. He is only interested in Burrow's stats. This has been obvious for a looooong time, but people are more receptive of it right now because LSU is doing good.
Let Burrow have a bad game, even if LSU wins, and he will show his true colors even more. Not a single person on this board is pissed about Burrow, or the LSU offense AT ALL. He spent an entire off-season making excuses, incase Burrow didn't do good, and he's now doing the same thing with Auburn and Bama looming.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:27 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:29 am to crazy4lsu
I remember Chase getting mugged in the end zone, but I hate running out of a bunch formation
Just based on the formation you bring 8-9 into the box. In the redzone it’s even more because you don’t need to play the safeties 15 feet deep.
I know you also have extra blockers I always prefer spreading it out to run.
Also it hasn’t been what we’ve been doing a lot this year
Just based on the formation you bring 8-9 into the box. In the redzone it’s even more because you don’t need to play the safeties 15 feet deep.
I know you also have extra blockers I always prefer spreading it out to run.
Also it hasn’t been what we’ve been doing a lot this year
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 11:29 am
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:31 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
Then why are zero passing offenses using it as their primary formation.
My dear god. Did you just start watching football?
Let's take the Saints, which is the obvious reference for this offense. Do you know that in the 2017 season, when Brady was there, they used 3 WR sets 43% of the time and 2 WR sets 21% of the time? They had the 5th best passing offense in the NFL that season. Who had the best? The Patriots. Do you want to know how many times came out in 4 WR sets? On 2% of their personal groupings. The Saints and the Pats came out in 5 WR sets only 1% of the time.
You are acting good passing teams only use 4 WR sets, as though that is their primary formation. I would suspect our personal groupings mimic the Saints as well, as more often than not, we are in 3 WR sets.
Regardless, blaming your perception of the offensive "ineptitude" solely on the Tight formation is completely silly, and certainly doesn't reflect the actual play on the field.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:36 am to Fat Bastard
quote:Look, I am just pointing out to him, and everyone else here, he has no idea what this is about.
You never heard of I FORM TIGHT? Ace big? Ace jumbo. Wow.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:37 am to crazy4lsu
quote:No, Slick. I am saying no team is running a successful passing game out of a Tight formation. And DEFINITELY not the Saints or the Pats!!!!!
You are acting good passing teams only use 4 WR sets, as though that is their primary formation. I would suspect our personal groupings mimic the Saints as well, as more often than not, we are in 3 WR sets.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:37 am to TwoTimeTiger
quote:
I remember Chase getting mugged in the end zone
Chase was mugged on the 1st drive when we ran a little comeback in the endzone too, and that was out of a 5-wide set. Seems MSU specifically tried to scheme so that Chase would be negated in the redzone.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:39 am to AlxTgr
quote:Have you figured out what a Tight formation is yet?
Look, I am just pointing out to him, and everyone else here, he has no idea what this is about.
Do you have Google?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:40 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
I am saying no team is running a successful passing game out of a Tight formation. And DEFINITELY not the Saints or the Pats!!!!!
Are you saying the Saints don't use the Tight formation? Go on record so I can prove you wrong again. And we were passing successfully out of the Tight until inside the 10.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:42 am to crazy4lsu
Yep. shite LSU is in gun way more than saints. Saints use ACE all the time. Along with gun. Saints also while using some RPO and pro style spread concepts also use tight and big formations as well. Sometimes with a fullback on the strong side.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:43 am to crazy4lsu
Holy shite. Saints use tight formations all the time out oF ACE. suck eye joe cannot be taken seriously anymore. Not that she ever was here anyway. Lol.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:44 am to crazy4lsu
quote:I'm saying the Saint's are primarily running out of the Spread - open field OR Red Zone. And almost all teams will run out of a tight formation occasionally. But not 19 times in a half, like LSU did on Saturday.
Are you saying the Saints don't use the Tight formation? Go on record so I can prove you wrong again. And we were passing successfully out of the Tight until inside the 10.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:45 am to Fat Bastard
quote:
Yep. shite LSU is in gun way more than saints. Saints use ACE all the time. Along with gun. Saints also while using some RPO and pro style spread concepts also use tight and big formations as well. Sometimes with a fullback on the strong side.
Ya..but the Saints are stuck with Brees. If they had Joe...they would be 5-wide every play to utilize his ridiculous skill set. Please get with the program.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:47 am to crazy4lsu
I have long been a proponent of 3wide/1 TE sets. If memory serves me correctly, Jimbo ran a ton of this at LSU while he was here with Henderson/Clayton etc
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:47 am to Fat Bastard
Payton's offense is built on West Coast principles too. It isn't what I would consider an Air Raid Spread either, as the I don't think they use the wide line splits that defined the Leach-Mumme school of the Spread concept.
I can't imagine this dude's reaction to using the Ace. Burrow under center?
Buckeye Jeaux: WHAT OFFENSE HAS EVER WON ANYTHING WITH THE QB UNDER CENTER!!!!??!?!?!?
I can't imagine this dude's reaction to using the Ace. Burrow under center?
Buckeye Jeaux: WHAT OFFENSE HAS EVER WON ANYTHING WITH THE QB UNDER CENTER!!!!??!?!?!?
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 11:48 am
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:48 am to Fat Bastard
quote:
Holy shite. Saints use tight formations all the time out oF ACE. suck eye joe cannot be taken seriously anymore. Not that she ever was here anyway. Lol.
"All the time"? How many, exactly, is all the time? 19 in a half? When? which game?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:51 am to crazy4lsu
Seriously? You're trying to pawn off the Ace as a Tight formation? LOL!!!
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
I'm saying the Saint's are primarily running out of the Spread - open field OR Red Zone. And almost all teams will run out of a tight formation occasionally. But not 19 times in a half, like LSU did on Saturday.
WHaT teAm hAs EveR uSeD TOIGHT fORmATiOns!!!?!??!?!
Again, why would a successful offensive coach want to introduce something new to his offense mid-season? Think about it. I can walk you through it if you need some help.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:54 am to crazy4lsu
quote:Who knows (or cares) why... it flopped. It's gone. Good riddance.
Again, why would a successful offensive coach want to introduce something new to his offense mid-season? Think about it. I can walk you through it if you need some help.
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