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re: Joe Alleva all talk
Posted on 10/7/16 at 8:14 pm to JawjaTigah
Posted on 10/7/16 at 8:14 pm to JawjaTigah
He's been bad in a lot of circumstances, but here he did alright. The only thing he didn't due was issue a statement early when the SEC office and Florida were all sunshine and rainbows; thinking that Matthew would do nothing to the game.
This is the SEC commissioners fault for letting this shite show happen, and Foley's for making it happen. Alleva can't tell UForfeit to hold their game, but the SEC can.
This is the SEC commissioners fault for letting this shite show happen, and Foley's for making it happen. Alleva can't tell UForfeit to hold their game, but the SEC can.
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Posted on 10/7/16 at 8:47 pm to JawjaTigah
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...all talk
Not like you who rants like a child on a message board.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:10 pm to tilthatday
Rants? Is it wrong to rant on Tiger Rant?
Is it wrong to expect more from our AD than excuses and whimpers?
Would it be too much to expect he call a press conference and demand of the SEC and UF that this be either a play game or officially forfeit situation?
It is not, after all, like we are not also both in the SEC. This game has significance for both teams and for the conference as a whole.
Is it wrong to expect more from our AD than excuses and whimpers?
Would it be too much to expect he call a press conference and demand of the SEC and UF that this be either a play game or officially forfeit situation?
It is not, after all, like we are not also both in the SEC. This game has significance for both teams and for the conference as a whole.
This post was edited on 10/7/16 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:28 pm to JawjaTigah
What is a press conference of demands going to accomplish?
Florida is not going to magically allow LSU to dictate the terms of a Florida home game. Even if Orgeron and his "ballzzz" were the AD.
Direct your anger towards Sankey. He's the one that didn't take control of the situation when he has the authority to do so.
Florida is not going to magically allow LSU to dictate the terms of a Florida home game. Even if Orgeron and his "ballzzz" were the AD.
Direct your anger towards Sankey. He's the one that didn't take control of the situation when he has the authority to do so.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:35 pm to nvasil1
quote:So then if Sankey is that weak and indecisive, then a strong and decisive LSU AD needed to step into the power vacuum and demand of the SEC Commishioner that he either make UF play (set alt.date) or declare the game an official forfeit. That needed and needs to be Alleva's public and ceaseless mantra until the desired results are achieved. It is not unreasonable.
Direct your anger towards Sankey. He's the one that didn't take control of the situation when he has the authority to do so.
This post was edited on 10/7/16 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:53 pm to JawjaTigah
Again, Alleva can demand all he wants, but he can't call the shots in this situation.
He could go scorched earth in the media about how the SEC and UF blew it and the game needs to be played, but Sankey or Foley still don't have to listen to him. They'd likely be even less cooperative with LSU if Alleva tried to be a tough guy.
He could go scorched earth in the media about how the SEC and UF blew it and the game needs to be played, but Sankey or Foley still don't have to listen to him. They'd likely be even less cooperative with LSU if Alleva tried to be a tough guy.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:04 pm to nvasil1
If you understood the first thing about the power of public perception on worms like Sankey and bureaucracies like the SEC, you might then grasp why I said that Alleva's is the more powerful position - bringing this case before the court of public opinion would likely begin the mounting pressure on them to order UF to play or Forfeit.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:09 pm to JawjaTigah
Put your resume in.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:12 pm to JawjaTigah
I do agree he should have hit the presser first.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:18 pm to JawjaTigah
i was with you for the first sentence. to think ceo would have more pull is a dumb statement
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:22 pm to JawjaTigah
Sankey has already been getting his share of the criticism. And bringing the case to the court of public opinion could also backfire and make LSU look like a bunch of cry babies.
Given how the national media responded to Les' firing, do you really think Alleva could positively influence public perception in a meaningful way? Most of the country doesn't care about this outside of Baton Rouge and Knoxville.
I'll say it again...Sankey and Foley don't have to do anything they don't want to.
Given how the national media responded to Les' firing, do you really think Alleva could positively influence public perception in a meaningful way? Most of the country doesn't care about this outside of Baton Rouge and Knoxville.
I'll say it again...Sankey and Foley don't have to do anything they don't want to.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:30 pm to JawjaTigah
Some of you are just too naive and stupid to believe.
Idiots.
Idiots.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:31 pm to nvasil1
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I'll say it again...Sankey and Foley don't have to do anything they don't want to.
I agree with this to a certain extent but could it have been played a certain way to force them to agree to a contingency plan earlier in the week to LSU's benefit?
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:40 pm to dsides
Without being involved in the meetings, there is no way to know what exactly was discussed, but UF was adamant that the game would be played as scheduled until Foley said yesterday it wouldn't be.
From everything reported and said by Alleva, contingency plans were made and offered, but UF said no. Since it was their game, they had every right to do that, no matter how misguided it was.
From everything reported and said by Alleva, contingency plans were made and offered, but UF said no. Since it was their game, they had every right to do that, no matter how misguided it was.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:40 pm to nvasil1
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They can do whatever the hell they want with their game and that's exactly what happened.
Takes two teams to make a game though. If sankey was actually competent he would have moved this game to Baton Rouge no later than Wednesday no matter if Florida wanted to or not.
The fact that grown adults in positions of power and leadership couldn't make this game happen, is a gigantic failure from the conference top brass any way you look at it.
They already had a template from the South Carolina game last October and how it was handled from all logistical angles. Tickets, travel, lodging etc. LSU was and is well prepared to host a team affected by natural disasters where they can't play in their home stadium. Yeah it sucks to lose a home game because of weather but Florida should have been forced to suck it and move the game.
The fact that all of these other schools figured their situations out to get their games played and UF/LSU didn't just screams massive levels of corruption, collusion, greed, and zero "proactiveness". Truly amazed at sankey for letting this happen when it didn't have to at all.
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They did what they wanted.
They sure did. And we're allowed to by sankey which is complete lunacy.
I guarantee you that if Alabama were in LSU's shoes this week the game would be happening in Tuscaloosa at 11am on the same network.
I really dare someone to disagree with that
saban would not have let a game get cancelled by a Florida team hiding behind the "safety" aspect of this storm. Yeah it's unsafe to have LSU travel to an area where a hurricane is supposed to hit. We knew this Monday morning. The fans knew as the storm got closer the less likely a game would be hosted in Gainesville. SEC Officials earlier this week on Monday had all kinds of time to make a decision that resulted in a game being played. And they fricked it up.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:40 pm to YogaPants
I was joking abou CEO as AD.
I'm happy to have him as interim coach and I hope he does a great job etc etc.
I think you get my point.
Would Carl Icahn have been better?
I'm happy to have him as interim coach and I hope he does a great job etc etc.
I think you get my point.
Would Carl Icahn have been better?
This post was edited on 10/7/16 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:42 pm to monsterballads
I really thought the SEC was going to step in Wednesday as a last resort thing.
And they didn't. Huge mistake.
And they didn't. Huge mistake.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:46 pm to monsterballads
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I really thought the SEC was going to step in Wednesday as a last resort thing.
And they didn't. Huge mistake.
100% this and it takes an uncomfortable but hard stance to make it happen for LSU and it didn't.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:52 pm to monsterballads
I agree with everything you said. Sankey is the real culprit here.
If he had exercised his authority earlier in the week, Florida wouldn't have been allowed to drive this sinking ship until late Thursday afternoon.
That's why I think the ridicule of Alleva for this is wrong. I'm pretty sure Alleva even said Sankey was on all of the conference calls and said nothing. He let the situation get away from him.
If he had exercised his authority earlier in the week, Florida wouldn't have been allowed to drive this sinking ship until late Thursday afternoon.
That's why I think the ridicule of Alleva for this is wrong. I'm pretty sure Alleva even said Sankey was on all of the conference calls and said nothing. He let the situation get away from him.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:57 pm to nvasil1
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That's why I think the ridicule of Alleva for this is wrong. I'm pretty sure Alleva even said Sankey was on all of the conference calls and said nothing. He let the situation get away from him.
He did let it get away from him but it's up to the other party to reel him in and that didn't happen. LSU lost the negotiation. Foley trumped Joe.
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