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re: JJ's First Take interview was pretty good
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:05 am to DBG
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:05 am to DBG
quote:True. JJ is not a "preseason candidate" based on his numbers, and definitely not worthy of a campaign before the season begins.
Preseason heisman hype is usually determined by the prior season
But let's be honest- the Heisman isn't won by preseason accolades usually. Mallet was the likely QB candidate from the SEC last year. Cam wasn't in the running- until he made some big plays and his team won. Now, JJ almost certainly won't have numbers anywhere near Cam, but he could approach Tyrod Taylor's, another "darkhorse" type guy (if VT ran the table he'd have gotten plenty of votes). And he does have the physical ability to do that.
Will he? Not likely, but it's entirely possible
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:05 am to Booyah Tiger
Neither of our two previous NC winning quarterbacks were anywhere near hesiman discussion, fwiw
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:06 am to ChemE in the OP
Can anyone tell us what else was said in the interview??
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:08 am to SA4LSU
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to my why they're upset that JJ got mentioned a couple times in some meaningless Heisman talk.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:11 am to SA4LSU
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Can anyone tell us what else was said in the interview??
Yes. Jay Crawford, the interviewer, asked him what the teams goals are, and Jordan said everyone on the team wants to win the national championship.
He was asked about his two brothers who apparently are really talented athletes themselves, and Jordan said every time he goes home they compete against each other in the yard playing football, basketball, etc. He said his two brothers are as athletic as he is.
He was asked a good bit about the Tennessee game last year, and he said the original play was for a fade to the outside receiver (probably Toliver) and they got mixed up and the ball was snapped. He said they were lucky to have the do over once Tennessee had 13 men on the field.
I can't remember the rest. I thought JJ did a pretty good job. He seemed nervous, but he handled himself well.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:14 am to faxis
Possibly mentioned for the Heisman? I can buy that. I think having Andrew Luck around for one more season reduces the probability of JJ winning it to zero however.
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:15 am to Booyah Tiger
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He has all the tools.
After watching Mett in the Spring game, I'd say that JJ doesn't have that strong of an arm. Sure, his arm is probably stronger than 99% of people on this board, and maybe even 90% of the highschool qbs .. and his arm is perfectly fine for NCAA, but Mett's arm is NFL caliber and i seriously felt like JJ was under hand tossing the ball after watching Mett throw.
JJ's accuracy is not the best, his arm strength has never been an issue, but the ball just seems to stay in the air a little too long.. I don't know if he's doing this on purpose or if he's trying to hard to aim the ball or if that is simply all he's got power wise.
Cam Newton didn't have the greatest arm either, so if JJ becomes a playmaker, then sure he can be a heisman candidate... but he does not have all of the "tools" as a QB... even as a scrambler he has no vision, lateral quickness, ability to break tackles.. etc. He's fast, and he's atheletic, but even as a scrambler he needs to grow a pair and make some moves on the LBs (like he did versus TenNesee) instead of running away from them into the faster cbs/dbs
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 11:19 am
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:17 am to Choctaw
Not everyone is "mad", Choctaw. Like me, I'm not mad he is getting pub, I just think it's ludicrous.
Others just don't like him, maybe personally, and actually are angered by it.
Others just don't like him, maybe personally, and actually are angered by it.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:19 am to EricB
sorta off-topic, but relevant:
Dennis Dixon was putting up Heisman-type numbers for Oregon post-Crowton. How was he when GC was there?
And that's a real question, btw. I don't remember hearing his name until Crowton left
Dennis Dixon was putting up Heisman-type numbers for Oregon post-Crowton. How was he when GC was there?
And that's a real question, btw. I don't remember hearing his name until Crowton left
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:19 am to BilJ
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yeah minus accuracy, arm strength, and awareness. ALL THE TOOLS
he has pretty good arm strength
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:19 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Not only are we going to take Oregon ... we're going to take West Virginia and Auburn and Alabama and Florida and Tennessee, and we're going to take Ole Miss and Mississippi State and Kentucky. And we're going to take Northwestern State and Western Kentucky and then the SEC title. And then we're going to New Orleans To take back the championship.
BYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:19 am to Scoob
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Toss in a couple freelance plays like his TD against Fla on the goal-line,
Which was followed up by a failed 2-pt attempt because he couldnt read the defense, and then JLee heroics at the end of the game, to win
If JJ just has ONE game where JLee has to bail him out, the Heisman talk is over. And Miles will not hesitate to pull the trigger after losing the Arky game, and missing a BCS bowl in '10, by leaving JJ in
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L 3 and 5 Jo. Jefferson rush for 1 yard to the AR29
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L 3 and G Jo. Jefferson pass incomplete to De. Peterson
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L 3 and 5 Jo. Jefferson sacked for loss of 2 yards to the AR48
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L 3 and 6 Jo. Jefferson middle pass complete to De. Peterson for 3 yards to the LS39
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L 2 and G Jo. Jefferson rush for loss of 19 yards to the AR27, fumble, recovered by Jo. Jefferson at AR27, Jo. Jefferson for no gain to the AR27 (T. Williams).
L 3 and G A27 Jo. Jefferson rush for 8 yards to the AR19
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L 2 and 10 Jo. Jefferson sacked for loss of 5 yards to the LS1 (Andru Stewart), fumble by Jo. Jefferson recovered by AR Jerry Franklin at LS1.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:20 am to Booyah Tiger
Thanks Booyah.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:21 am to DBG
I agree that its ludicrous, but it's nothing personal against JJ. Even if LSU finsihes undefeated, JJ is highly unlikely to win the heisman because he isn't the type of QB you build an entire offense around (Something Crowton couldn't figure out), JJ is the perfect QB for a running offense. LSU will defintley have the running game this year, and the passing game has to improve, it just has to.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:23 am to RobbBobb
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RobbBobb
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If JJ just has ONE game where JLee has to bail him out, the Heisman talk is over
I'm not putting any bets on JJ winning the Heisman, just so we're clear
Just pointing out, if he doesn't screw up, and we win it all, he will have a lot more pub than anyone here would ever expect
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:27 am to Scoob
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Dennis Dixon was putting up Heisman-type numbers for Oregon post-Crowton. How was he when GC was there?
pretty mediocre
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:28 am to ChemE in the OP
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This post was edited on 7/10/11 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:29 am to faxis
quote:
He's much improved in the interviewing skills area.
I could give a frick. Be a better qb on the field when it matters.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:33 am to ATLTiger
quote:So, there would be precedent for some improvement on JJ's part. That's good to know. I always got the impression his issues were being overloaded with the game from the neck up. That could be on the player, but could also be on the coach/scheme.
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Dennis Dixon was putting up Heisman-type numbers for Oregon post-Crowton. How was he when GC was there?
pretty mediocre
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:42 am to Scoob
I think LSU QBs already start off with a disadvantage in the heisman discussion. Just being the Qb on the best team isn't enough. The recent heisman winners that were qb put up serious numbers, numbers that JJ isn't capable of producing. Being on a top team helps your chances, but you still have to have very impressive stats.
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