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re: JJ will the the key to LSU beating Bama
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:56 pm to c on z
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:56 pm to c on z
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Considering the last times we have thrown that much, you would think that people would know this.
It's not us; it's them. They don't lose when the other team throws the ball often. The most an SEC team has thrown on them and won was Auburn at 22 attempts.
This post was edited on 10/17/11 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:56 pm to Antonio Moss
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If we try to sling the ball all over the field against Alabama, we lose.

Im pretty sure this is NOT what is being said or thought.

Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:56 pm to CptBengal
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L O L. So you think that hits from JJ running between the tackles will soften up the Bama D-Line better than Ware...
Did you watch the Tennessee game?
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:57 pm to TIGRLEE
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ok.
Are you suggesting he didn't? Is your hatred so bad for him that you can't even admit when he plays well?
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:57 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Really?? I guess it's because he pitches to the RB so often...
You guys keep saying this, but the fact of the matter is the "team" runs the ball better with Jefferson in the game. Alabama's greatest defensive asset is their LBing corp. With Jefferson in, it lessens this advantage because they have to account for two runners in the backfield.

Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:57 pm to CptBengal
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CptBengal
You are delusional and you come off as if you know nothing about the game of football. JJ will be a factor to this Bama game, he can pass the ball, he's already done so this season. Don't even dare bring up past stats. I wonder wtf are some of you smoking. A Bama defense will be overwhelming for JL or JJ, that's why it is a blessing that we have both. Establishing the run, stout defense, and no turnovers will win the game. Usually when a team is pass heavy, they are playing catchup.

Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:57 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:and still needed JL to come in and seal the deal
JJ played well against bama last year.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:58 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:JJ didnt soften them up by himself. the constant pounding they took softened them. We havent played a team with as much depth as us yet
L O L. So you think that hits from JJ running between the tackles will soften up the Bama D-Line better than Ware...
Did you watch the Tennessee game?
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:58 pm to PanhandleTigah
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Really?? I guess it's because he pitches to the RB so often..
Check the ypc for the team.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:58 pm to Topwater Trout
I can assure you that I dislike you far more than I've ever disliked JJ.
No hatred here.... Good try though.

No hatred here.... Good try though.

This post was edited on 10/17/11 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:58 pm to Antonio Moss
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, but the fact of the matter is the "team" runs the ball better with Jefferson in the game.
JJ runs better....our passing game suffers. Oh and if you remember it's a PASSING threat which moves the safeties back, NOT MORE RUNNING.
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With Jefferson in, it lessens this advantage because they have to account for two runners in the backfield.
With Lee in the LB's and safeties actually have to watch for the pass instead of pinning their ears back and charging their gaps upfield.
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If we can get one or two good, time consuming drives against Alabama with Jefferson in the game, then we increase our chances ten fold.
That statement works equally well with JL instead of JJ, YOUR BIAS IS SHOWING. In fact, isnt our average time of possession higher this year than years past?
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If we try to sling the ball all over the field against Alabama, we lose.
Strawman arguments FTW!
Look, you really like JJ. That's cool, but he is not the passing threat needed to keep their Defense honest.....and JJ's running wont keep them honest, sorry.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:59 pm to Antonio Moss
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You guys keep saying this, but the fact of the matter is the "team" runs the ball better with Jefferson in the game. Alabama's greatest defensive asset is their LBing corp. With Jefferson in, it lessens this advantage because they have to account for two runners in the backfield.
At least one person gets it

Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:59 pm to Antonio Moss
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Did you watch the Tennessee game?
This Bama defense has little resemblance to UT's. JJ will play a part, but I don't suspect he will experience the success he had vs UT against Bama.
I hope like hell we don't see the same game plan vs Bama we saw vs UT.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:59 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:So, you're telling me when JJ's in the game, the ypc are better? Now, is this for anyone else besides him?
Really?? I guess it's because he pitches to the RB so often..
Check the ypc for the team.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:59 pm to Antonio Moss
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You guys keep saying this, but the fact of the matter is the "team" runs the ball better with Jefferson in the game.
Are there some stats out there that back this up?
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Alabama's greatest defensive asset is their LBing corp.
Agree
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With Jefferson in, it lessens this advantage because they have to account for two runners in the backfield.
No, it doesn't. It means that they don't have to worry about the pass and can focus strictly on the run.
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If we can get one or two good, time consuming drives against Alabama with Jefferson in the game, then we increase our chances ten fold.
Why wouldn't this be good with Lee in the game?
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I do think our passing game (especially Randle) needs to come up with big plays, but it's more of a "take your shots when they're there" philosophy.
Would think most people agree.
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If we try to sling the ball all over the field against Alabama, we lose.
Don't know anybody that wants to beat Bama by slinging the ball down the field. But, by mixing up the run with play action pass, bubble screens, etc., that's what I believe it will take to beat them. The best QB to do that is Lee. With JJ, your team becomes completely one dimensional, run. That's why we were so horrible last year on offense.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:59 pm to mylsuhat
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JJ didnt soften them up by himself.
We had 47 yards on 18 attempts in the first half (2.6 ypc).
Once Jefferson came in the second half, we gained 213 yards on 34 carries (6.2 ypc).
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:00 pm to 13SaintTiger
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. Don't even dare bring up past stats.
yep, cant have things that shred your arguments (like 106th rated passer) come into play.
Then you just look stupid.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:00 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:then that makes two of yall that just dont understand the entire game of football besides who is playing
At least one person gets it
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:00 pm to Antonio Moss
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We had 47 yards on 18 attempts in the first half (2.6 ypc).
Once Jefferson came in the second half, we gained 213 yards on 34 carries (6.2 ypc).
tough to run the ball against 8-9 man fronts.
This post was edited on 10/17/11 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:01 pm to mylsuhat
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and still needed JL to come in and seal the deal
Because JJ got hurt.
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