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re: JJ will the the key to LSU beating Bama

Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by 3rdRowTrashTalker
Drunk between Kirby and the Nat
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Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
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Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:42 pm to
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These threads always turn into the same 3, 4 guys ripping on anyone who says anything remotely positive about JJ and then turning around and accusing them of being "biased JJ lovers."
This post was edited on 10/17/11 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:44 pm to
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Cam Newton


Really?

Auburn threw the ball 20 times against Alabama last year. They ran it 41 times. Over 2/3 of their plays were runs.

Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:46 pm to
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Run, just like every year since Saban got there.


obv

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But it just doesn't work that way. The more you throw, the less clock you use and the more opportunity you give their offense to produce.

Since when is burning clock more important than moving the ball and scoring points?

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But, this discussion with you doesn't matter. Miles is going to run the ball at least 2/3 of the time against Alabama. The only way we don't run that much is if we go down by two scores or more early . . .then we're in trouble.

LM is gonna do whatever it takes to move the chains. Run or throw... his preference isnt the point here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:47 pm to
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Auburn threw the ball 20 times against Alabama last year. They ran it 41 times. Over 2/3 of their plays were runs.




I think in order for JJ to be successful vs Bama he will have to throw the ball successfully like he did last year. Not sure he is to that point yet, hopefully he gets a few throwing ops this week. He bailed on a couple vs UT in order to run.

I think this Bama defense is as good as I have seen. LSU needs both Qb's to have any offensive success.
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:47 pm to
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Miles is going to run the ball at least 2/3 of the time against Alabama.

And we've done that every game so far. With Lee guiding us to double digit leads before JJ gets a series. Not sure how JJ suddenly becomes 'the key' to anything
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48705 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:49 pm to
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So your point that JJ softened them up is now abandoned, when faced with the reality?


What?

We averaged more yards per carry against Alabama compared to the rest of the season (5.0 to 4.5) and rushed for more yards (250 to 187).

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And I think it's pretty much a given that Lee can hand off


Good lord, I feel like a broken record. This has nothing to do with Lee's handoff mechanics. It has to do with how defenses play the run when Lee is in the game compared to Jefferson.
Posted by BTTF
Member since Oct 2010
34 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:49 pm to
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I said that b/c JL is not mobile. A mobile QB who's a decent passing QB is more valuable against Bama.




Really...In 580 attempts JJ jas been sacked 63 times...In 530 attempts JLee has been sacked 18 times....Really
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48705 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:50 pm to
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These threads always turn into the same 3, 4 guys ripping on anyone who says anything remotely positive about JJ and then turning around and accusing them of being "biased JJ lovers."


I cannot care less about the insults. What gets me is the willful ignorance to simple facts.
This post was edited on 10/17/11 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85655 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:50 pm to
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While I do think JJ is a better QB

Wait, are you serious?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41959 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:51 pm to
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provide one link where I said JJ shouldnt play or Ive been unsupportive of JJ.


Your entire post history is definitely an indication of your "support" level for JJ. No links required.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:53 pm to
Yeah, I just find it humorous that their typical "logic" is to accuse others of doing exactly what they are doing.
Posted by CalTiger
California
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Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48705 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:56 pm to
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And we've done that every game so far. With Lee guiding us to double digit leads before JJ gets a series. Not sure how JJ suddenly becomes 'the key' to anything


Well, like I pointed out way back in my initial post, I don't think he or Lee is "the" key to beating Alabama.

The key to beating Alabama is not giving up non-offensive points and making McCarron beat you.

That said, Jefferson can play a crucial role in increasing our effectiveness running the ball and loosening up their front seven - which is the strength of their team.

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And we've done that every game so far.


We haven't played a defense in the same league as Alabama.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:56 pm to
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Your entire post history is definitely an indication of your "support" level for JJ. No links required


when all else fails huh?
SOrta like your brother saying that I "probably" root for JJ to throw ints.

You two are awesome.
Posted by sjak
Member since Oct 2011
85 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:57 pm to
Miles will start JL just like other games, use Ware to Ware the other team down (pun intented). Then bring in JJ in the second half with fresh legs to win the game.But i do believe we have to make key passes to pull away from bama.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/17/11 at 1:58 pm to
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I think this Bama defense is as good as I have seen. LSU needs both Qb's to have any offensive success.


This!
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 2:01 pm to
I don't think any one player will be the "key" to LSU beating Bama.

Honestly, the reason for LSU's tremendous success this year is because they aren't just a bunch of dudes running around out there... they are a team. A unit.

LSU's offense is not good because of Jarrett Lee. Or Jordan Jefferson. Or Spencer Ware. Or PJ Lonergan. Or Rueben Randle. They are good because all of them contribute into a well-oiled machine.

Same on the defense. Tyrann Mathieu doesn't make this defense. Neither does Mo Claiborne, nor Sam Montgomery or Michael Brockers or Ryan Baker. They are a unit, who communicate effectively and play well together.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35035 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 2:02 pm to
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Since when is burning clock more important than moving the ball and scoring points?


When you have a lead?
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 2:02 pm to
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I don't know why, but I just have this feeling that the Bama will be JJ's game and Miles will give him the some point in the first half of this game.



you want to believe it..
there, you now know why
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