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re: Jefferson's Smart Decision to throw the ball away (with Pictures)
Posted on 10/11/11 at 7:40 pm to LSUPHILLY72
Posted on 10/11/11 at 7:40 pm to LSUPHILLY72
quote:that was the second time it was called. my grandmaw knew it was going to TT. Sorry. The ball should have been thrown before the receiver broke.
receivers in the route 2. Not the same play, not the same route.
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 7:42 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Could he not have checked him off in some way?
On a 1 man route?
Posted on 10/11/11 at 7:47 pm to rutiger
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you are so full of shite its not even funny. thanks for letting us know you have no clue what you are talking about. rr was DOUBLE covered!
Don't you know it's smart to throw into double coverage if you throw early enough.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 7:47 pm to ChancesR
It's also a great job by the coaches giving him 1 WR routes to work. It's an easy read = easy decision. Design plays to your players abilities, thank you Krags/Stud!!!
To all of you wanting him to throw it early. You never force a throw anywhere, but especially down here. Throw it away and get your points. Then kick and let your D play. Nice Job JJ.
To all of you wanting him to throw it early. You never force a throw anywhere, but especially down here. Throw it away and get your points. Then kick and let your D play. Nice Job JJ.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 10/11/11 at 7:51 pm to LSUPHILLY72
1 receiver route really seems like a weak arse play call. just a thought tho.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 7:51 pm to LSUPHILLY72
I haven't read the whole thread so idgaf if it's been said but why throw the ball away with no pressure? Terrible play
Posted on 10/11/11 at 7:55 pm to Tayday
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I haven't read the whole thread so idgaf if it's been said but why throw the ball away with no pressure? Terrible play
2 Questions:
1- What should he have done?
2- What do you think the coaches told him to do?
I will hang up and listen to your answer
Posted on 10/11/11 at 7:56 pm to Tayday
B/c we're up by a lot. He's not supposed to scramble on every play. There's nothing wrong with taking three points with our D.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:00 pm to Adam Banks
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However you premise that he looked at RR the whole time is wrong. I would argue that JJ is staring directly at the saftey till late in the sequence because that is his primary read for the play. If you look in the first three pictures he is almost looking straight ahead and then in the fourth his head+body makes a pretty drastic turn to the left towards Reuban who is now even further up field. So he wasnt staring down RR at all
Then you are looking at a different sequence than I am. In photo 2 JJ has the ball and he and the FS do appear to be looking toward each other. In photo 2 the FS has not comitted to going right or left. From photo 3 on JJ is staring down RR. By photo 4 his body is squared to throw left.
And no, I do not believe there was more than one gunman in Dealey Plaza the day Kennedy was shot.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:13 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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1 receiver route really seems like a weak arse play call. just a thought tho.
That's not how you do it every day on your Game Boy is it?
It really sux for you that you are still living at home with your mom and not coaching LSU instead of thet dummy Les Miles isn't it?
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:17 pm to Tayday
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I haven't read the whole thread so idgaf if it's been said but why throw the ball away with no pressure? Terrible play
Then you ought to have an adult read it to you.
It was a fast read play. One look and if it's not open throw it away and then kick the field goal. It was designed that way for both QB's. It's the type of play that a smart football coach calls early in the game. Don't force the ball. Get some points.
But you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay smarter aren't you?
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:20 pm to LSUPHILLY72
I thought this thread was a joke until I saw it went 15 pages, jj is the back up, will be the rest of the season. He is a glorified running back that's about it, les uses jim correctly, when your big highlight is a pass thrown away it says enough, jj lovers please go away,
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:28 pm to jackson123
quote:I agree, if he would have thrown it sooner, the pass would have been thrown for a TD.
He also took forever to throw the ball on that play. He hesitated. Now, it was the right decision, but that throw is a quick step drop.
I notice, Jefferson has more read type of passing plays, where Lee seems to throw more timing routes. That decision by the coaches may have something to do with the delivery method of each quarterback.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:30 pm to Tyger1919
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jj lovers please go away,
But you JJ haters can stay?
JJ is the back up QB. He ran the play as called exactly as it was given to him. The throw wasn't there and he dumped it.
Speaking of highlight passes, Didn't JJ end up with one that was a big IN YOUR FACE to Florida? Or is your infantile little brain to weak to remember that pass?
Now back into your crib.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:33 pm to Slim
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I agree, if he would have thrown it sooner, the pass would have been thrown for a TD.
Throwing timming pases into double coverage is always a good thing?
Ignoring your keys is a good thing?
We'll relax and let us regale us with tales about how YOU threaded the needle back in your NFL days.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:44 pm to Uncommon Cents
Uncommon cents..why is it when constructive criticism is made about Jefferson, guys like you get your panties in a bunch. You would be respected for your comments if you understood about timing routes. Timing routes are thrown to a spot before the defense has time to react. The receiver knows where he is going, the defense doesn't.
There was a timing route pass play in the WVU game that Lee threw where the only one that could catch it was Odell Beckham. The ball was on its way before the receiver made his cut. The defender was right there but had no shot at defending the pass.
There was a timing route pass play in the WVU game that Lee threw where the only one that could catch it was Odell Beckham. The ball was on its way before the receiver made his cut. The defender was right there but had no shot at defending the pass.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:46 pm to Roach
This thread is terrible... Jj held on to the ball
wayyyy too long, he's supposed to let it fly quickly, not hold it and give the safety time to get in position...
Terrible thread, just terrible... Did I say this thread is terrible?
wayyyy too long, he's supposed to let it fly quickly, not hold it and give the safety time to get in position...
Terrible thread, just terrible... Did I say this thread is terrible?
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:47 pm to Tyger1919
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I thought this thread was a joke until I saw it went 15 pages, jj is the back up, will be the rest of the season. He is a glorified running back that's about it, les uses jim correctly, when your big highlight is a pass thrown away it says enough, jj lovers please go away,
WOW, you've taken stupidity to a whole new level. Grats!
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:59 pm to Slim
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Uncommon cents..why is it when constructive criticism is made about Jefferson, guys like you get your panties in a bunch. You would be respected for your comments if you understood about timing routes. Timing routes are thrown to a spot before the defense has time to react. The receiver knows where he is going, the defense doesn't.
There was a timing route pass play in the WVU game that Lee threw where the only one that could catch it was Odell Beckham. The ball was on its way before the receiver made his cut. The defender was right there but had no shot at defending the pass.
One last time slim. That play was designed as a read. Here's how that works. The QB reads the defense. There are keys that tells him what the DBs are likely to do. If according to the keys, the WR isn't likely to be open he throws it away. Period. Don't force the ball on the goal line and risk a turnover and lose out on a FG. Timming throws downfield all have reads. They ALL do. How a DB reacts and where he is supposed top be is read (most of the time) by the QB. Timming throws work only when the DB is where the offense wants him to be, but they change coverages(sneaky little devils) after the play starts making throw away neccessary sometimes. That is how passes are thrown in real games. Not video games. The unknown is always the reaction of the DB. And that reaction is often predicted by certain keys the OC has given the QB.
The Beckham example is bogus because it wasn't the same route on the same part of the field. Here's another hint. Not all pass plays are the same. Jefferson did what he was coached to do.
Damn I thought everybody knew this shite.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:01 pm to P bean
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This thread is terrible... Jj held on to the ball
wayyyy too long, he's supposed to let it fly quickly, not hold it and give the safety time to get in position...
What about the "its a timming play" theory? If it's a timming play then he has to hold the ball a certain period of time you jackass.
Please learn football. You are the mental equal of a man taking a knife to a gunfight.
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