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re: Jefferson was average
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:35 pm to amarti9
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:35 pm to amarti9
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Matt Flynn or Matt Mauck were not as talented as the freak of nature Jamarcus Russel who could toss a football 40 yards on his butt. But they were better decision makers in my view because they didnt have the talent JR had. JR would take chances when didnt have to or not take chances when he could.
Matt Mauck was a terrible decision maker at QB. JR only threw 8 pics his junior year (against a much harder schedule). JR didn't throw INT's in 8 or 9 games his junior season.
I really don't understand how Mauck gets this game manager rep, when he turned the ball over a lot in big games. Great leader and i'm glad we had him, but he was in no way a good decision maker.
Jefferson looks like the best decision maker we've had this decade (might be too careful with the ball)
This post was edited on 9/6/09 at 1:41 pm
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Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:36 pm to marinebioman
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I just didn't see Jefferson play the same game most of you guys apparently saw.
Cut yourself off from the alcohol AT LEAST 3 hours before kickoff along with eating bread and drinking plenty of water.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:39 pm to marinebioman
You people can say what you want but I rather have Lee. I feel that we can not go far with Jefferson at QB. I want a pocket passer not a guy who constantly takes huge hits and tries to run for it. Don't get me wrong a mobile QB is nice, but there are certain situations you should run. To give Jefferson credit the o-line was pretty much owned by a defense that couldn't get off the field.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:41 pm to BCS Tiger
Just quit posting, PLEASE! 
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:42 pm to BCS Tiger
quote:
but I rather have Lee.
thats because you're a fricking idiot.
Did you know that Lee took the 3rd string reps in practice this week? (I'm aware that he came in when Jefferson was injured for one play, but he was still pushed down to 3rd string for a true freshman).
Did you know that he was 3-13 in the scrimmage last week? Just because the media tells you he was 5-10 doesn't mean shite
Jefferson is a mobile pocket passer when he is given time to throw
This post was edited on 9/6/09 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:43 pm to BCS Tiger
WOW!!!! 2nd best post EVER!!
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:43 pm to BCS Tiger
quote:
You people can say what you want but I rather have Lee. I feel that we can not go far with Jefferson at QB. I want a pocket passer not a guy who constantly takes huge hits and tries to run for it. Don't get me wrong a mobile QB is nice, but there are certain situations you should run. To give Jefferson credit the o-line was pretty much owned by a defense that couldn't get off the field.
JJ is a pocket passer. He was a pocket passer in HS, he was a pocket passer last year, and given that almost all his runs last night were planned, he is still a pocket passer.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:43 pm to TigerBait1127
Mauck single handedly kept Oklahoma in the National Championship game.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:43 pm to BCS Tiger
quote:
You people can say what you want but I rather have Lee. I feel that we can not go far with Jefferson at QB. I want a pocket passer not a guy who constantly takes huge hits and tries to run for it. Don't get me wrong a mobile QB is nice, but there are certain situations you should run. To give Jefferson credit the o-line was pretty much owned by a defense that couldn't get off the field.
The OL SUCKED!
He was running for his life.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:44 pm to BCS Tiger
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but I rather have Lee.
This is just a completely indefensible position.
Jefferson was running because of the lack of protection. If Lee was QB last night I don't know how many sacks/INT's we would have had.
This post was edited on 9/6/09 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:45 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
Matt Mauck was a terrible decision maker at QB. JR only threw 8 pics his junior year (against a much harder schedule). JR didn't throw INT's in 8 or 9 games his junior season. I really don't understand how Mauck gets this game manager rep, when he turned the ball over a lot in big games. Great leader and i'm glad we had him, but he was in no way a good decision maker. Jefferson looks like the best decision maker we've had this decade (might be too careful with the ball)
In the case of Mauck vs JR, what Im getting at as far as decision making is that, he wouldnt try to "gun it" down field to beat triple coverage. If it wasnt there it wasnt there.
However there were times he'd have players open downfield and he'd choose to throw it elsewhere. No Mauck didnt make the best decisions ever, but he didnt rely on his physical abilities to force the issue. JR did. He gambled and won sometimes and lost sometimes. JR in some ways reminded me of Brett Favre at times in that he believed that his arm or talent was enough to overcome the secondary.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:46 pm to amarti9
so why did mauck throw 14 interceptions to JR's 8 if he didn't try and force the ball? Why did mauck turn the ball over so much in big games?
Mauck was no where near a game manager. He took risks and made a lot of big plays. He hurt us in almost every big game but he kept the offense moving
Mauck was no where near a game manager. He took risks and made a lot of big plays. He hurt us in almost every big game but he kept the offense moving
This post was edited on 9/6/09 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:52 pm to marinebioman
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Jefferson was average
I will take a passing % of 60, 180yds, 3 TDs, and no ints for my 19yr old QB in his 3rd start and on the road....thank u very much.
The key for me...he didn't hurt the team with his play.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:52 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
Did you know that Lee took the 3rd string reps in practice this week? (I'm aware that he came in when Jefferson was injured for one play, but he was still pushed down to 3rd string for a true freshman).
Did you know that he was 3-13 in the scrimmage last week? Just because the media tells you he was 5-10 doesn't mean shite
Jefferson is a mobile pocket passer when he is given time to throw
Dumbass don't fricking talk to me about 3rd string reps. I haven't seen Jefferson look good in any game so far. He showed flashes against Georgia Tech, but nothing special. Lee had no help last year. The defense was garbage so he had force shite because we were behind most of the time and when he did make a good play the WRs dropped it. That's not exactly making it easy for your freshman QB.
This post was edited on 9/6/09 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:54 pm to Lonnie4LSU
No one has even mentioned his 9.5ypa, which is fantastic.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:55 pm to BCS Tiger
quote:
I haven't seen Jefferson look good in any game so far.
maybe you should open your eyes then.
either that or you're kin to lee.
or you could be a dumbass, im guessing the latter.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:56 pm to TigerBait1127
Some of Mauck's interceptions were "tipped ball" or "deflected" ball interceptions. I dont want to fault the man over that nor do I fault JR. And it doesnt have to be "interceptions" it could be incomplete passes in coverage like Lee did a lot last year on 2nd and 3rd and longs.
And lets not forget JR turning the ball over in big games. I love JR and all but he got me heated in a couple of games.
At the end of the day Mauck won a championship for us, JR didnt.
And lets not forget JR turning the ball over in big games. I love JR and all but he got me heated in a couple of games.
At the end of the day Mauck won a championship for us, JR didnt.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 1:57 pm to marinebioman
0 pick 6s....good enough for me
Posted on 9/6/09 at 2:01 pm to BCS Tiger
I think JJ did ok. In fact I'm not sure any of our recent QBs would have done as well with the complete lack of protection he was getting (Maybe Flynn). What's wrong with the O-Line? They sucked!
One thing that did disappoint me is the camera shot after the game showing JJ as well as a bunch of the other players cutting up. I know they are just kids but after that lack-luster performance, I'd have quietly grabbed my helmet and headed for the locker room thanking God we didn't loose that game and thinking about what we need to do better next week.
Then again if we had an actual disciplinarian for a coach this wouldn't be an issue. He'd have them "on that page". The O-Line and D-Line should have to run wind-sprints all the way back from Seattle!
One thing that did disappoint me is the camera shot after the game showing JJ as well as a bunch of the other players cutting up. I know they are just kids but after that lack-luster performance, I'd have quietly grabbed my helmet and headed for the locker room thanking God we didn't loose that game and thinking about what we need to do better next week.
Then again if we had an actual disciplinarian for a coach this wouldn't be an issue. He'd have them "on that page". The O-Line and D-Line should have to run wind-sprints all the way back from Seattle!
Posted on 9/6/09 at 2:05 pm to tigerfan5803
Why did JR come up in this thread? Fricking idiots!
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