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re: Jefferson: "I will be the starter, hands down"
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:28 am to JJ27
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:28 am to JJ27
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Arkansas State is in the Sun Belt. They finished higher than ULM. JJ's stats against ULM? 4/10 51 yards 0 touchdowns 0 interceptions 3 carries for -4 yards rushing 0 touchdowns.
Wasn't it ULM that bean Bama not long ago... NOT Ark St.?
You think maybe Ark St. could have finished better cause they didn't play anyone. I don't know and dont care. Just saying. Anywho I posted the stats cause you asked. I just stated a fact that Ark St. was lowly. Don't get all defensive with me
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Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:30 am to Geaux Tahel
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You think maybe Ark St. could have finished better cause they didn't play anyone.
Arkansas State finished higher in their conference by playing different conference opponents? Oh and they beat ULM 34-20 last year.
This post was edited on 7/9/11 at 1:32 am
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:32 am to Geaux Tahel
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Newton 9/14 186 13.3 3 0
Other than 3 TDs... not great
Maybe not. But it was still a better passing game than most of LSU's last season. JC QB means nothing positive or negative. Neither does SEC QB, really. Until JJ and/or Mett play in actual games this year no one knows what to expect from either.
This post was edited on 7/9/11 at 1:33 am
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:34 am to JJ27
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Arkansas State finished higher in their conference by playing different conference opponents
I did assume each team played OOC games... DUH
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:34 am to Geaux Tahel
I swear some of yall are just so firmly entrenched in the stand up for JJ movement, to where youre really just trying to convince yourself hes indeed this huge diamond in the rough.
This post was edited on 7/9/11 at 1:36 am
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:35 am to Geaux Tahel
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I did assume each team played OOC games... DUH
Yeah, but OOC doesn't effect where you finish in your conference. It's arbitrary, just saying though...I'm too tired to continue. Pick this up tomorrow.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Until JJ and/or Mett play in actual games this year no one knows what to expect from either.
Correct, but lets bash JJ anyway and refuse to believe he could have possibly improved just because we "heard it before".
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:37 am to JJ27
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Yeah, but OOC doesn't effect where you finish in your conference. It's arbitrary, just saying though...I'm too tired to continue. Pick this up tomorrow.
I apologize it's late and It didn't register that you said "in their conference".
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:38 am to Hitchcock
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Wow talk about altering facts to fit your argument. That was a 1 loss LSU team that blew out Florida. The season wasnt lost till Mauck got hurt
Hey Rudae', maybe you're onto something...check out the powerhouses Mauck QB'd against that year:
Virginia Tech - Loss
Citadel (SC)-W
Miami (OH)-W
Mississippi St. -W
Louisiana-Lafayette -W
Florida-W
Can't you smell the Championship?? Forget Saban's "Vaunted Defense" not showing up for Auburn or Bama or R-Kansas or Texas..
This post was edited on 7/9/11 at 1:46 am
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:40 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
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I swear some of yall are just so firmly entrenched in the stand up for JJ movement, to where youre really just trying to convince yourself hes indeed this huge diamond in the rough.
You suffer from the same disease rudy does. Reading comprehension failure.
You do realize that pointing out "there were plenty of people messing up on offense INCLUDING BOTH QB's" =/= sticking up for JJ, right????
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:43 am to Geaux Tahel
its beyond that, I wasnt talking about you exclusively.
most cant even agree on what his obvious flaws and strengths are
negative comment about JJ, stats are cited, W-L used as counter argument.
its a variation of the same arguments in every QB thread
most cant even agree on what his obvious flaws and strengths are
negative comment about JJ, stats are cited, W-L used as counter argument.
its a variation of the same arguments in every QB thread
This post was edited on 7/9/11 at 1:46 am
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:55 am to Geaux Tahel
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Correct, but lets bash JJ anyway and refuse to believe he could have possibly improved just because we "heard it before".
You should just admit you don't know the definition of "bashing."
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:58 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
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most cant even agree on what his obvious flaws and strengths
I find it amusing that the JJ bashers can't even include his best stats when trying to diminish his abilities even further... And that's his running. Sure, he's no Michael Vick. Nobody is saying he is. But he does a pretty good job making plays from time to time when nothing else is working. And this is, in my opinion, the biggest reason he was in there and never lost his starting role to JL.
They just outright refuse to give him any credit for his rushing ability. Like running doesn't matter. Some games that was ALL we had... but the bashers ignore it. When something good happened for JJ, it was because of someone else, but when JJ had a poor result, it was all JJ.
It's really become a joke.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You should just admit you don't know the definition of "bashing."
I'm sure I have a better grasp of the meaning than you and your boyfriend rudy.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 2:24 am to Geaux Tahel
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I'm sure I have a better grasp of the meaning than you and your boyfriend rudy.
How old are you? Just curious. I get the feeling it isn't "very"
Posted on 7/9/11 at 2:33 am to Geaux Tahel
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They just outright refuse to give him any credit for his rushing ability. Like running doesn't matter. Some games that was ALL we had... but the bashers ignore it. When something good happened for JJ, it was because of someone else, but when JJ had a poor result, it was all JJ.
fair enough, but you cant deny a good portion of those who defend JJ generally wont admit his passing was mediocre at best
WR dropping balls, the offensive play calling, etc.
its the same thing
Posted on 7/9/11 at 2:45 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
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but you cant deny a good portion of those who defend JJ generally wont admit his passing was mediocre at best
WR dropping balls, the offensive play calling, etc.
Maybe so, and I can't speak for everyone, but I can show dozens of times in arguments with Rudy, et.al., that I said BOTH QBs, including JJ played poorly.
But I also said he had plenty of help messing up.
And I'll stick to that statement. And I'm quite certain that is a pretty accurate statement.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 8:38 am to Geaux Tahel
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But I also said he had plenty of help messing up.
You keep saying that but I would love to know on a play such as a bubble screen how are you going to blame the WR when he is waiting for the ball and JJ continually threw it behind him,,at his feet,way over his head or where he had to dive for the ball to catch it and couldnt get up and run? How do the WR contribute to that? JJ's biggest issue and the biggest (notice I said biggest, I know you love to twist words but I said biggest not ONLY) issue the passing offense had was JJ's inaccuracy and lack of consitently being able to throw an on target pass!
Posted on 7/9/11 at 8:40 am to Geaux Tahel
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I'm sure I have a better grasp of the meaning than you and your boyfriend rudy.
Another fine example of the JJ fanboy creed when you dont have a factual argument bash those who do!
Posted on 7/9/11 at 9:32 am to slackster
quote:yup. there is about 6 pages of nothing but bullshite.
-Rudy and Geaux Tahel should not be allowed to post in JJ/QB threads for at least 12 months
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