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re: Jefferson: Expect to see ‘a show’ at Spring Game
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:19 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:19 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
after 2 starts do you really know all that to be true?
Why not just say he has shown characteristics of this and that and this and that.. youve gotten penciled in stone of exactly what JJ is ..after watching him play 2 games. TWICE.
Not to mention the situations and time of yr that got his starts...
Dont you at least want ot see how he does against the likes of a Fla/Au/USC on the road or a highly ranked caliber team like Uga at home in huge SEC game before you get so boastful in what JJ can and cant do.?
FWIW I agree with you on #4.
The rest is debatable.
Why not just say he has shown characteristics of this and that and this and that.. youve gotten penciled in stone of exactly what JJ is ..after watching him play 2 games. TWICE.
Not to mention the situations and time of yr that got his starts...
Dont you at least want ot see how he does against the likes of a Fla/Au/USC on the road or a highly ranked caliber team like Uga at home in huge SEC game before you get so boastful in what JJ can and cant do.?
FWIW I agree with you on #4.
The rest is debatable.
This post was edited on 4/15/09 at 3:22 pm
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Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:22 pm to BT
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Tim Tebow is the best player in the country.
Hes the caliber athlete, on and off the field every coach wants (or should want)
RP was a fuking thug who is playing at some division 2 school now. If you want to get down to bottom of it, he's big factor in why we struggled last season. ZERO experience at qb.
They have a golden opp to win NC's 3 outa 4 yrs........ thas is more than saying somthing. .... I wonder who the favorite for 2009 is? LSU or Fla?
I'm the last person to defend RP but after reading your post I came away with the feeling that you feel that a player that was a fuking thug who is playing at some division 2 school now contributed to or was responsible for the horrific QB play @ LSU last season. And because of that, RP, while playing for another team not in the SEC or Div 1 for that matter, was responsible for the bad play of LSU QB's.
In fact what about when any starter gets hurt and can't play forcing the backup to have to play....is the starter reponsible for the bad play of the backup because that's essentially what you are saying.
Look, RP pissed a lot of LSU fans off by being himself but it is utter fricking nonsense to blame a player who is not on the team for bad play by players who are on the team.
I guess you forgot to blame the swiss cheese-like defense that gave up 40+ point in multiple games....games that despite the bad QB play LSU had a chance to win.
I'll tell you this, give the Lee led LSU offense that averaged 27 points a game Florida's defense and give the Tebow led Florida offense LSU's defense and Florida doesn't sniff the MNC last year. I'm not a Lee supporter but let's be rational. The defense or lack thereof was as big a problem for LSU as Lee was last year.
RP, no matter how much he pissed LSU fans off last year, had no more to do with poor QB play than any other starter that gets hurt and facilitates an inexperienced player starting in his place.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:22 pm to tubucoco
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but this kid was a frosh for petes sake, lighten up.
i know
just pointing it out. we scored like 13 points total in the 3 2nd halfs he played in
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:24 pm to Lester Earl
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he has been horrible in every 2nd half he's played in
Really? Horrible? As in 0 int's? As in 0 points given to the other team? Oh and he has only played in 2 2nd half's, like i said before, if it weren't for a holding call he would have had a long td pass. Against arkansas, 2/7 for 39 yards and 1 td. Against georgia tech: 5/13 for 21 yards and 0 td. While these aren't the best stats, they definitely aren't 'horrible'. This is what's horrible - 16 int's 8 pick 6's. 2 games of at least 3 int's. 8 games in a row of throwing at least 1 pick. THese are horrible stats.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:25 pm to CalLSU
horrible as our offense didn't score when in the first half we did score
yes, horrible.
the sole reason we lost to fricking Arkansas
yes, horrible.
the sole reason we lost to fricking Arkansas
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:29 pm to Lester Earl
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horrible as our offense didn't score when in the first half we did score
yes, horrible.
the sole reason we lost to fricking Arkansas
Dude!
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:36 pm to Lester Earl
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horrible as our offense didn't score when in the first half we did score
yes, horrible.
the sole reason we lost to fricking Arkansas
wow, the WHOLE REASON? Are you really serious? I am waiting for you to say you are joking. What about our defense Allowing 17 points in the 2nd half? What about tremaine johnson getting a personal foul on a 4th and 28 play when we would have gotten the ball around the 50 yard line? They ended up kicking a field goal on that possession. And let's not forget that 4th and 1 td pass that beat us? You really think he lost that game for us? Are you really expecting someone that is making their first start on the road against a rival to score more than 30? And how many turnovers did he have? 0. PLease tell me you are joking becuase that really doesn't make any sense, anyone that has half a brain would tell you that the defense lost that game for us
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:36 pm to Lester Earl
I'm so frickin tired of arguing about frickin Jordan Jefferson and frickin Jarrett Lee let the frickin season start already. 
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:37 pm to BT
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after watching him play 2 games. TWICE.
Not all these are in game things
1.) Being calm during the Games: Your right, I may not be able to say JJ is always going to be this way but he definately was in his two starts. And I can say for fact that JL was sometimes calm and into the game, but most of the time he was anything but clam and uptight
2.) Leading the Team: Jarett Lee never really lead the team. From what I have seen of JJ on the field, it would appear he can(im sayinghe can definately do it, but im saying theres a high porbability). ANd from what I have heard off of the field and during the offseason, he definately can. I mean before the GT game when he adressed the team saying "Guys I know im Young, I Know Im New, But I Promise I will not let you down" showed he could definately lead the team.
3.) Swagger: I mean not once did Jarett lee really speak up or do anything with a little attitude or confidence, and from the recent stuff about JJ and how he is saying he going to put on a show, tells me hes very confident in himself and that is easily 50% of how a QB performs cause as we all know, QB's are headcases
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:38 pm to tubucoco
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I'm so frickin tired of arguing about frickin Jordan Jefferson and frickin Jarrett Lee let the frickin season start already
amen 
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:41 pm to PurpleKnight88
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RP, no matter how much he pissed LSU fans off last year, had no more to do with poor QB play than any other starter that gets hurt and facilitates an inexperienced player starting in his place.
I pretty sure you missed my point.. at that part of this thread I was talking about hte diffin caliber people of a TT and a RP.
The point concerning JL/RP is that you can not put a price tag on experience when referring to qb play in the sec.. to discredit it is IMO dumb.
If JL couldnve done a better/equal job than RP or MF maybe hed seen more PT in 2007.
The key word here is development. JL had zero time to do so... so he had to learn as he went along.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:41 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
ok, it's obvious why JJ is better.
He's a Crowton type dual-threat QB.
You have to respect the option, draw, as well as his arm.
JL not so much. JL is a pocket passer. Every time he dropped backed he looked scared to DEATH of contact. JJ was taking over and scrambling.
That's it.
/end rant
He's a Crowton type dual-threat QB.
You have to respect the option, draw, as well as his arm.
JL not so much. JL is a pocket passer. Every time he dropped backed he looked scared to DEATH of contact. JJ was taking over and scrambling.
That's it.
/end rant
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:43 pm to CalLSU
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wow, the WHOLE REASON? Are you really serious?
I really dont feel like going over this bullshite again, but i will.
well lets see..
we score 23 points in the first half...7 in the second....
we lose by a point
and we happened to start 2-3 drives IN ARKANSAS territory in the 2nd half. And we mustered ZERO fricking points. A FG, and we win the game.
so yeah, the 2nd half offense led by JJ cost us that fricking game
and i wouldn't be worried, but the same shite happened in the 2nd half vs Ole Miss and the same thing happened in the 2nd half vs GA Tech. Our offense was putrid.
This post was edited on 4/15/09 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:48 pm to musick
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ok, it's obvious why JJ is better.
theres a fuking FAIL
the ONLY thing that is obv is that both of these dudes are young and they both need to get better.
This post was edited on 4/15/09 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:49 pm to Lester Earl
ok man, if you want to see it that way, then fine. But he didn't allow 17 points like the defense did. I really don't see how you can honestly blame that game on someone who was making their first start. If you would have told me before that game that a true freshmen making his first collegiate start on the road against a big rival was going to come in and go 9/21 for 143 yards and throw 2 td's and have 0 turnovers and on top of that run for 50 yards and that our team would score 30 points i would have said i will take it. I mean, i think you have him confused with someone who has been playing all season long, this was his first game to play a significant role in. COuld he have done more? Yes, but was it his fault we lost? No! It was the teams fault with most of that blame going on the defensive side that had 2 huge penalties that gave the razorbacks big breaks including the aformentioned 15 yard penalty that gave them a first down after we had stopped them right outside of their goalline
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:50 pm to Lester Earl
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so yeah, the 2nd half offense led by JJ cost us that fricking game
No, this is so wrong. With 23 seconds left on 4 and 1, give them the first down and guard the endzone/anything more than 10 yards with ur life. A field Goal cant beat us, so let them have the first down at the 30 yard line. It was awful defensive coaching that cost us that game. The was no reason why we didnt have atleast 4 dbs in on that play. Possibly lose the battle on that fourth down play by giving ark a first down, but dont lose the war trying to win the battle(which we did)!
. And Defensive penalties, OMG dont get me started on this game.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:52 pm to CalLSU
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But he didn't allow 17 points like the defense did.
with the ease we scored with in the first half, and having the ball at least twice in ARK territory to start a drive in the 2nd half and not scoring a single point isn't concerning to you?
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:52 pm to BT
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theres a fuking FAIL
No i dont think so at all.
Give me a reason(with proof, like facts, that dont come out of your arse) that tell me a convincing reason why JL should start over JJ?
I mean JL had his shot and blew it, now the reigns have been handed to JJ.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:52 pm to CalLSU
I wouldnt blame the Ark loss on JJ... but the FACT fuking remains this guy has yet to play a good second half in the game he has started.
FWIW, without the ark and gatech seocnd half performances .... I'm proably on the JJ bandwagon myself.
FWIW, without the ark and gatech seocnd half performances .... I'm proably on the JJ bandwagon myself.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:55 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
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I mean JL had his shot and blew it, now the reigns have been handed to JJ
short leash around LSU these days huh?? especially for the young guys.
So what if JJ blows it?? are th reigns going over to RS?? how about CG?? wait a second, can the reings be given back to JL once they have been taken away?
Im confused.
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