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re: Jarrett Lee Could Be Scary with the WR Talent this year
Posted on 7/25/10 at 3:54 pm to learnthehardway
Posted on 7/25/10 at 3:54 pm to learnthehardway
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your right bro , JJ is fricking awesome. we are in good shape , i'll stop worrying about the QB position now
I never said Jefferson was awesome. I said he was clearly superior.
Do you understand the difference?
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Posted on 7/25/10 at 3:55 pm to learnthehardway
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your right bro , JJ is fricking awesome. we are in good shape , i'll stop worrying about the QB position now
Why worry over something you honestly cannot control or change?
Posted on 7/25/10 at 3:57 pm to learnthehardway
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i am pretty tired of the qb debate
Thats because there is no real debate to have---JJ started every game but Tech when he was hurt, the spring game, and is the starter in the fall.
U have to be stupid and blind to think he is not the man in 2010.
Posted on 7/25/10 at 3:58 pm to TheDoc
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What's "decent" mean?
not throw a zillion int's
not take a zillion sacks
be capable of making reads
not take 15 seconds to wind up and release the ball
be capable of hitting a reciever in stride
make opposing D's respect the pass
MF was decent
Posted on 7/25/10 at 3:58 pm to TheDoc
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What's "decent" mean?
consistency, a command of the offense, leadership, confidence...
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:00 pm to Antonio Moss
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Do you understand the difference?
i understand what you are trying to say. do you understand that all i am saying is that both QB's have areas that they MUST improve or we are fricked this season , again
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:01 pm to TheDoc
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Why worry over something you honestly cannot control or change?
for fricks sake bro , you are up in these threads at least as much as i am
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:05 pm to learnthehardway
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i understand what you are trying to say. do you understand that all i am saying is that both QB's have areas that they MUST improve or we are fricked this season , again
I agree that Jefferson has some areas where he needs to improve. I also believe he isn't one of the top two problems with our offense and that his play (and our success) will be severely limited by these other two factors.
I also believe that he gives us the best chance of success while at QB and that the other option(s) aren't close.
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:06 pm to learnthehardway
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for fricks sake bro , you are up in these threads at least as much as i am
Yeah but I'm not worried
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:12 pm to learnthehardway
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This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:15 pm to learnthehardway
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or we are fricked this season , again
We were not fricked in 2009.
We were nationally ranked and picked to play in the cap 1 bowl.
If u forgot, thats the same bowl Saban got in 2004.
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:21 pm to msutiger
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find it quite humorous Doc and Moss are call people idiots/retards when they are sitting there saying one QB is clearly superior.
to the 110th offense in the nation. You cant argue with stupidity.
We went through each QB category, in detail, two days ago. Jefferson was superior in 7 of 8 of these categories. He was distantly superior in a few of them.
People can make the 110th argument until they're blue in the face, but the fact of the matter is that Jefferson and Lee average nearly the exact same amount of passing yards per game. The difference is Lee had the benefit of running game which kept the defense close to the line and Jefferson didn't. Despite this, he still threw for more touchdowns, less interceptions, for a high completion percentage, and for more deep passes.
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:21 pm to Antonio Moss
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I also believe he isn't one of the top two problems with our offense and that his play (and our success) will be severely limited by these other two factors.
OL play & GC correct ?
what is your opinion on our OL this season compared to last ? i hear a lot of people saying that we should be much improved this year. do you agree ? if so why ?
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:24 pm to msutiger
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I find it quite humorous Doc and Moss are call people idiots/retards when they are sitting there saying one QB is clearly superior.
to the 110th offense in the nation. You cant argue with stupidity.
And they are satisfied with repeating it
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:24 pm to learnthehardway
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OL play & GC correct ?
Yeah. Crowton is our biggest problem. The line is second.
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what is your opinion on our OL this season compared to last ? i hear a lot of people saying that we should be much improved this year. do you agree ? if so why ?
I hope its better. I'm not sure if its possible to be worse. The problem is there was no improvement throughout the year last year that we can look back and say "they were getting better and with another year they'll be much improved."
We'll have new faces and they're supposedly talented if you buy into recruiting evaluations. But they'll be green.
In my opinion, it truly is a question mark.
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:34 pm to Antonio Moss
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Jefferson is the third (arguably second) most accurate passer we've had this decade
this is part of the reason people give you shite about your defense of JJ. The correct way to state this is he had one of the most accurate seasons, statistically, over the past decade. but much of this was a combination of play call, sacks and scrambling. You can watch JJ in games, even in warm-ups, and tell he is not an overly accurate passer. I would even say had he taken a few more chances last year his final stats might have been worse, but the overall offense might have been a little better. He gave defenses very little to think about last year...of course, Crowton shares much of the blame for this as well.
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:39 pm to ForeLSU
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I would even say had he taken a few more chances last year his final stats might have been worse, but the overall offense might have been a little better.
I agree and I said this time after time even before the season. Doc and I used to go at it about how many picks JJ would throw. I said about 10, and he said about 4. I said I HOPE he throws 8-10 interceptions, because it means he's not gunshy and is not afraid to try to make a play. But sadly that is exactly what wound up happening. Still, I wonder if it was because of what he himself saw with Lee in '08, or if it was due to orders from above.
By the way, Fore, this is the only page of this thread I've read. Is is worth wading through or will it just make me want to fight some folks?
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:40 pm to Hot Carl
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By the way, Fore, this is the only page of this thread I've read. Is is worth wading through or will it just make me want to fight some folks?
If you have read through any JL/JJ debate in past season and half then you know every argument that will be made in this thread.
Nothing new
Posted on 7/25/10 at 4:44 pm to Hot Carl
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By the way, Fore, this is the only page of this thread I've read. Is is worth wading through or will it just make me want to fight some folks?
I think I started 1-2 pages back...same old shite
Posted on 7/25/10 at 5:04 pm to ForeLSU
you guys do know the Cap Bowl is the bowl right outside the BCS right?
We still end up in Cap 1 simply because Florida only lost 1, the SECcG, and Bama went undefeated.
We still end up in Cap 1 simply because Florida only lost 1, the SECcG, and Bama went undefeated.
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