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re: Jalen Mills Arrested for Battery
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:53 am to matt314
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:53 am to matt314
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If the police or the DA believed the girl's story they would not have made an appt to see Mills in two weeks. He would have been charged immediately. Something does not make sense to them and they wanted to get the thing cleared up wihout chargesand publicity.
it's not that they don't believe her necessarily, it's that they know with the little evidence they had, a statement from the victim and the friend with her, it will be difficult for them to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. they would have rather get a statement from Mills as well to gather more statements given under oath before they proceeded. this is why Mills skipping that meeting was in his best interest, it gives the state less to work with
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:55 am to LSUNV
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It was no benefit to him to show up and talk to police
Hind sight is 20/20
has nothing to do with hindsight being 20/20. it is standard legal advice not to give any statements to police prior to and/or not in the presence of an attorney. nothing that could have been accomplished in that meeting could not also be accomplished with his attorney present. much more can go wrong without, however
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:56 am to GeeOH
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Isn't it a crime at some point if you stand by and watch a felony being committed?
no, you have no duty to intervene to prevent a crime from happeneing
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:58 am to TheShwenz
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In really narrow circumstances you can be held liable for not helping, such as if you are a doctor walking down the street and you see someone lying there dying and you just ignore them and go about your day
no, you're still not liable for that as a doctor. you have no duty to provide help unless you are in the course of your employment (i.e. a police officer witnessing the same while on duty), and that is only tort liability. you cannot be held criminally responsible for that situation
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:02 pm to LSUdm21
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It was no benefit to him to show up and talk to police.
Nah... just ignore it. They won't do nuthin.
Sounds like you got experience.
Guess he wound up talking to them anyway.
If you object to reading something 48 times don't live on the board.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:08 pm to redfieldk717
i swear ive heard this story before with a diff player
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:09 pm to JacksonLSU
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i swear ive heard this story before with a diff player
Who?
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:11 pm to heartbreakTiger
a woman lying?????? even though it could ruin someones life or at least mess it up pretty bad? noooooooooooo--that would never happen. women have too much accountability and honor!
AHhhhh hahahahahahaha
AHhhhh hahahahahahaha
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:15 pm to JacksonLSU
honestly, from the sounds of it, it appears possible Mills could have been "romantically involved" with both women. victim comes to his place to confront him while the other girl is over there. the two girls get into it, Mills intervenes, victim gets hit at some point and accuses Mills because she's pissed. nothing like the wrath of a scorned woman. but i really wouldn't be surprised of any scenario when dealing with women involved, in one way or another, in a fight. the only thing i doubt with about 100% certainty is the original story told by the victim which led to his arrest.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:21 pm to lsufball19
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honestly, from the sounds of it, it appears possible Mills could have been "romantically involved" with both women. v
Didn't his attorney say this
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:22 pm to TheShwenz
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Eh, maybe. In really narrow circumstances you can be held liable for not helping, such as if you are a doctor walking down the street and you see someone lying there dying and you just ignore them and go about your day. Your special skills could have saved that life and it wouldn't have reasonably set you back to stop, check on them, call for help, etc. It almost never happens though.
Not true...medical personnel be it RN's, physicians, etc are not legally required to intervene. Morally maybe they should, but legally there is no requirement.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:24 pm to TigerBait1127
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Didn't his attorney say this
haven't read any statements released by his attorney since last night, but he hadn't said that at that point. he just said that there were several other witnesses present and that someone else actually struck the victim. i don't remember seeing anything about jalen's romantic involvement with the victim and doubt he'd release specific information like that to the press. he was very vague with everything he said. basically "my client didn't do it, someone else did. our story is inconsistent with the victim's. we have witnesses prepared to testify to that."
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:24 pm to lsu2006
I am not sure I got the whole story, but after skimming through 5 or so pages I gather that he did not attend a meeting with investigators regarding the incident. First, was a warrant issued or was the meeting voluntary? Did he say he would attend, and then he just did not show up? A person is under no legal obligation whatsoever to go to a meeting with investigators. Most importantly, without his lawyer present, a person should never discuss with law enforcement anything relative to a crime for which he could be charged, and he is under no legal obligation to do so. The fact he did not attend a meeting, even if he just decided not to show up, by itself, carries no criminal consequences. Having said that, upon being contacted by BRPD, he should have immediately informed the criminal defense attorney assigned to LSU players and all further communication must then have gone through the attorney.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:25 pm to Restomod
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Not true...medical personnel be it RN's, physicians, etc are not legally required to intervene. Morally maybe they should, but legally there is no requirement.
correct
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:25 pm to matt314
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Nah... just ignore it. They won't do nuthin.
Sounds like you got experience.
Guess he wound up talking to them anyway.
If you object to reading something 48 times don't live on the board.
They didn't arrest him for not talking to them.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:25 pm to TigerfFaithful
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First, was a warrant issued or was the meeting voluntary?
Voluntary
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:26 pm to TigerfFaithful
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Having said that, upon being contacted by BRPD, he should have immediately informed the criminal defense attorney assigned to LSU players and all further communication must then have gone through the attorney.
starting to sound like that's exactly what happened. although there's not going to be an attorney "assigned" to LSU. I'm sure there are attorneys that frequently provide pro bono services to LSU athletes, though
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:27 pm to TigerfFaithful
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he should have immediately informed the criminal defense attorney assigned to LSU players and all further contact must then have gone through the attorney.
That doesn't really exist.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:27 pm to TheShwenz
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Also reporting there were apparently a number of witnesses and they are refuting the original girl's story that Mills did anything wrong.
There needs to be a massive crow-eating thread once he's cleared. Idiots.
Mills never came off as a guy that would jeopardize himself like this. I'm hoping the truth will come to light and Mills will be cleared of all charges
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:29 pm to Emiliooo
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Mills never came off as a guy that would jeopardize himself like this. I'm hoping the truth will come to light and Mills will be cleared of all charges
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