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re: It's nice to have a QB coach and an OC who can actually call good plays.

Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:19 pm to
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Your statement assumes the guys don't like JJ due to race.




It has to be the case with some fans. Especially any fan that is a Miles supporter.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:21 pm to
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and people who know football know that he is better than JL
What? This thread is polluted with ignorance.
Posted by mtnhighTiger
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:21 pm to
AlxTgr - not replying to you...it's just a general reply.

Seems like this thread has gone completely off the tracks. Instead of throwing the race card around - calling people racists; how about we discuss the original topic -

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It's nice to have a QB coach and an OC who can actually call good plays.


Maybe it's me but the word "race" doesn't appear in any part of that sentence.

Who cares what color skin a person has...they're either a good QB or they're not. Race has NOTHING to do with it.

Get over yourselves and quit f@#$ing up the thread.

Carry on.
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:22 pm to
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I said that, not AlxTiger.

Do you also have trouble with recognizing who said what?
:sigh:

Quit trying so hard to take things out of context. We already know that you have no integrity.

Try to follow along. I can't hold your hand all of the time. AlxTiger said:
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Uh, he did in this thread. His only qualification was, if they are Miles fans.
Now follow closely here. TT can't say something to everyone if he limits the people to whom it is said.

AlxTiger qualified the remark in his own post. Thus, TT cannot say something to everyone if, as AlxTiger acknowledges by his very own qualification, TT does not say it to everyone.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:23 pm to
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And what backward arse logic are you using to come to this conclusion?


I will trust that coaches who are getting paid millions know who the better QB is. JL has had his chances to win the job but hasn't. JJ brings more to the table with his running abilities and being able to escape the pocket. When JJ got sacked the JJ haters had a field day I wonder why those same posters didn't have a field day when JL was trying to catch his tail against Oregon.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:26 pm to
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We both know what you are trying to imply.
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Oh, thats right, you cant direct me to these racist posts without telling me about "codewords" and "subtle inference" about "how you KNOW what they really mean".
Wow. You really don't understand context at all.

That's sad but not unexpected.

But that's okay because you like to try take things out of context and juxtapose them because you have no integrity.

I never said that you were trying to imply anything racist. You were trying to imply things about the LSU fanbase. You are wrong.

There are LSU fans who are racist. I have seen LSU fans make racist posts about Jefferson.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:27 pm to
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just me


I have learned with those 2 posters that they never offer anything worthwhile.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:28 pm to
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Seems like this thread has gone completely off the tracks. Instead of throwing the race card around - calling people racists; how about we discuss the original topic -
Lee fan boys. They just can't help but slob on his knob. It's a reflex.

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Maybe it's me but the word "race" doesn't appear in any part of that sentence.

Who cares what color skin a person has...they're either a good QB or they're not. Race has NOTHING to do with it.

Get over yourselves and quit f@#$ing up the thread.

Carry on.
Thank you!
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:31 pm to
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I have learned with those 2 posters that they never offer anything worthwhile.
They are as dumb as dirt.

But they are very entertaining. I chuckle every time I read CptBengal. He tries so hard. And I've begun to notice that he really doesn't care about even trying to be logical or have integrity. He has a "whatever it takes to win" mentality when it comes to arguing on the board.

It's absolutely adorable in one so young and dumb.


ETA: Now back the topic of the thread.


This post was edited on 9/12/11 at 12:33 pm
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:32 pm to
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Lee fan boys. They just can't help but slob on his knob. It's a reflex.


Neither one of them introduced the race discussion to this thread.

That was the troll that has repeatedly spewed the race BS on this board, and who is now visibly absent from this discussion.

I'm at fault for calling him out on it- and this getting sideways. But I agree, lets get back on topic here, if there is anything more to discuss regarding the OP.
This post was edited on 9/12/11 at 12:33 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84326 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:32 pm to
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I have learned with those 2 posters that they never offer anything worthwhile.
Dude, you're one of the worst football posters on the board. At least just me makes good ball posts from time to time despite his disability.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92552 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:34 pm to
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I like the fact that we're not afraid to call the same play 2 plays in a row.


Then flip it, and run it a couple of more times in the opposite direction (particularly in the 4th quarter against NSU).
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68701 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:42 pm to
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Dude, you're one of the worst football posters on the board.




Luckily for me your opinion means nothing to me.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:43 pm to
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I will trust that coaches who are getting paid millions know who the better QB is. JL has had his chances to win the job but hasn't.
When has JL had his chances to win the job, at least in the last two seasons? The coaching staff seems to generally make it clear who the starter is maintain that for stability unless the guy is really not getting it done, and although the backup may come in for some snaps, it's hardly looked at as a chance to "win the job".

And you don't know what the coaches thought about JL and his abilities, it could easily be that they thought him equal or better than JJ, but JJ was still the starter until he really screwed it up and although JJ struggled, he didn't really give the game away as much as just failed to be as reliable as they needed.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84326 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:47 pm to
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Luckily for me your opinion means nothing to me.
You could learn a lot actually. Put away your anger and hate. It's not too late for you. Anyone who can catch trout with top water is capable of learning new things. Open your mind....
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68701 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:48 pm to
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When has JL had his chances to win the job, at least in the last two seasons?


Practice and scrimmages. Also played in games.

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And you don't know what the coaches thought about JL and his abilities


No I don't but logic tells me the coaches made him the starter b/c they feel like he gives LSU the best opportunity to win. I seriously doubt that any coach would start someone they feel is inferior to another player.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68701 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:48 pm to
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Put away your anger and hate


I will try
Posted by EricB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1680 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:50 pm to
How impressive! We all know the OC's thought was -- "I don't care how well he performed, JJ is still better!" -- and he tried to use some rhetoric to conjugate this pathetic -- "thank god our coaching issues are resolved"


No, thank god we have a passing qb back in the game. Signed -- Tenn / Florida
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:58 pm to
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When has JL had his chances to win the job, at least in the last two seasons?




Practice and scrimmages. Also played in games.


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And you don't know what the coaches thought about JL and his abilities




No I don't but logic tells me the coaches made him the starter b/c they feel like he gives LSU the best opportunity to win. I seriously doubt that any coach would start someone they feel is inferior to another player.
Has there ever been an instance in recent years under Miles where an established starting QB was unseated by a backup? I cannot recall any. And certainly we've had situations where the backup was probably a better overall player than the starter.

You made a good point, but my counterpoint is that, for many reasons stability among them, when it comes to QB, the best player is often not the starter, as long as the starter isn't horrible.

IMO, JJ was the starter and had been for many games over a couple of seasons, so it was his job to lose regardless of how good they may have thought Lee was.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68701 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 1:06 pm to
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IMO, JJ was the starter and had been for many games over a couple of seasons, so it was his job to lose regardless of how good they may have thought Lee was.


And IMO he played bad enough to lose it. CLM and GC had so many opportunities to replace him with JL. I can't imagine any coach sticking with JJ the way he played if they really thought JL would do better. I think JL looked good coming off the bench and maybe he wouldn't have been as comfortable starting. He hasn't looked real comfortable this year as the starter but has played well.

Thursday will answer more questions about JL. State is going to try to force us to pass and I believe will blitz JL til he burns them. I think he will burn them.

You are right about CLM being loyal to his starter. W/O QB being injured he sticks with him.
This post was edited on 9/12/11 at 1:08 pm
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