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re: Is there evidence of batters improving significantly under Jay Johnson?

Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:23 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:23 pm to
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Then why didn’t Jay do a better job in the portal?


Maybe it isn’t as simple as pressing All-SEC Pitcher in the Portal Vending Machine like you act when he goes and gets Skenes and Tommy White.

Also, make up your mind of getting good players from the portal means he’s a good coach or that he’s “buying a team with Lipsey’s money”

Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8850 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:26 pm to
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Then why didn’t Jay do a better job in the portal?

He was hired at the end of June and still reeled in a great class. He did much better every year after that.
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So close. Like a photo finish which Jay’s been in a lot of those

Well, Jay has also won a national title. Something you give him zero credit for.
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Solid in the Pac 12

Not even worth responding to.
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Man just say I’m whipping your arse up and down this bitch

You are the only person who thinks this. You get proven wrong over, and over, and over again and then just ignore people calling out your retarded posts.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5485 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:27 pm to
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you’d only complain about how he doesn’t steal enough bases


Probably true. Oh the hypotheticals

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Make us better.


Very fortunate that NIL became a thing early in his time and LSU had donors lined up ready to legally cut checks

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that doesn’t mean coaching wasn’t necessary to bring LSU forward.


I’d argue money

Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8850 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:29 pm to
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Oh I didn’t realize Beloso, Jaubert and them weren’t players Pawl n Cain recruited. Must’ve been holdovers from the Smoke days

Cade Beloso tore his ACL before the season started, retard. He was also dreadful before Jay got a hold of him.
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Jaubert
Jobert* actually improved before he even got on campus because of Jay making changes in his swing.
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"He's a quick learner: He called me and we were discussing some things about summer baseball that were happening with him and his at-bats, and then he immediately put some (new) things into play," Johnson said. "It really took off in a real positive way, and he's carried that into fall practice."

Some of those things: putting his foot down quicker to get into a better launch position.
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 11:32 pm
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:30 pm to
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but I’m infinitely more intelligent than you


Anyone that feels the need to make this claim on an anonymous message board is an insecure retard.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5485 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:34 pm to
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No, you did that


No I literally didn’t lolll

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Jared Poche was in the rotation for more years than Paul Skenes


Yep but Poche also holds records and was a major piece of the staff on post season teams. Stanny is relegated to the bottom of the order

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Ashton lost an outfield spot. Stanfield and Curiel took open outfield spots. Pretty simple.


Nah Larson was never playing CF so that’s irrelevant. I do agree Curiel should be in CF which could free up the potential of Larson in a corner

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Milam, when hitting the ball well, was doing so at the top half of the order.


Not exclusively. He was moved up BECAUSE he was hitting, and the sad part is he was really the only one which tells you how inconstant and middling our lineup was a year ago.

Jay finally admitted earlier this season what was obvious last year — they couldn’t score without hitting HRs

The sad thing is this team hasn’t been much different lately


This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 11:46 pm
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5485 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:37 pm to
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Jason Kelly made $278,600.00 per year at Washington


So you’re admitting he took a pay cut to leave LSU for Washington (which has never won anything in baseball)

Plenty of rumors he couldn’t stand Jay
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5485 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:39 pm to
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Also, make up your mind of getting good players from the portal means he’s a good coach or that he’s “buying a team with Lipsey’s money”


My prevailing point from day one is that he has no excuses for not buying the best players now because of LSU’s immense resources

Pawl didn’t have this. But it’s a thing now and it should only enhance LSU’s advantages but Jay’s allowed Tony to rise up and knock him back a peg
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8850 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:40 pm to
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No I literally didn’t lolll
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Yep but Poche also holds records and was a major piece of the staff on post season teams. Stanny is relegated to the bottom of the order

You're too stupid to realize you're saying it right here. The length of time a player plays for a program has no bearing on how impactful that player is to a team in the present season.
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Nah Larson was never playing CF so that’s irrelevant. I do agree Curiel should be in CF which could free up the potential of Larson in a corner

No it's not. If Stanfield wasn't tearing the cover off the ball and playing great defense, Curiel would be in Center and it would open up another spot. He absolutely (indirectly) took a spot from Larson.
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Not exclusively. He was moved up BECAUSE he was hitting, and the sad part is he was really the only one which tells you how inconstant and middling our line was a year ago.

And he still produced at the top of the order... proving my point. It doesn't matter where in the order you hit from. This isn't 1985, they don't just grove fastballs to guys hitting in the 7 hole. They have advanced analytics on every player on the team. They shift the in and outfield on every player on the team. They have attack plans for every player on the team. 1-9 are treated the same on teams like LSU, especially when their numbers reflect their ability.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5485 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:42 pm to
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He was hired at the end of June


So was Schloss
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8850 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:42 pm to
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So you’re admitting he took a pay cut to leave LSU for Washington (which has never won anything in baseball)

No? He made $300,000.00 per year at LSU. He then got his opportunity to be a first time head coach in a P5 conference. That conference no longer exists. He then got a massive pay raise to return to the best conference in baseball.

Maybe, on top of everything else, he realized he didn't want to be a head coach.

The "rumors" are he couldn't stand working as much as Jay worked. Sounds soft to me.
Posted by PerryWinkleBlue
Member since Apr 2025
267 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:44 pm to
Reading you posts/responses remind me of republicans and democrats debating.

You(republic in this example) are submitting facts and statements that can be verified/confirmed by anyone that has any sense of baseball goings on past 9th grade.

Your detractors just call you names (retard) and throw out enormous amounts of random shite that aren’t relevant to the argument.

There’s nothing you can say to change their minds or way of thinking, regardless of how right you are, but it’s so fun watching how angry and imagining how hard they’re pounding their keyboard and giggling while typing the response to your latest post.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5485 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:45 pm to
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retard. He was also dreadful before Jay got a hold of him.


False. Shined as freshman before he lost a ton of weight, COVID, injury

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Jobert* actually improved before he even got on campus because of Jay making changes in his swing.


He was the perfect Jay player. Batted 5th or 6th and hit HRs or struck out

Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8850 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:46 pm to
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So was Schloss

No he wasn't.

Jay was hired on June 24, 2021.

Schloss was hired on June 9, 2021.

At Texas, Schloss was hired on June 25. He took over a much better team and was able to use Texas' infinite money to get some guys out of the portal late. You don't care about coach's first seasons anyway. None of what they're working with is their doing. Shame.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8850 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:47 pm to
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False. Shined as freshman before he lost a ton of weight, COVID, injury

He hit .279 on an average team. .266 in conference play.

He then lost weight and was awful in 2021.
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He was the perfect Jay player. Batted 5th or 6th and hit HRs or struck out

And helped us win a national title by hitting the go ahead home run in the regional. I don't get your point.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78278 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:48 pm to
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My prevailing point from day one is that he has no excuses for not buying the best players now because of LSU’s immense resources


Weird that seems to contradict your other main point which is that he isn’t a good coaches because he bough his roster in 2023.

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Pawl didn’t have this.


He only had 15 years to recruit good players.

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But it’s a thing now and it should only enhance LSU’s advantages but Jay’s allowed Tony to rise up and knock him back a peg


No, that was Paul letting a guy at Tennessee rise up. Vitello won 50 games and whipped beat us 5 times in 1 season before Jay took the job.

If anything Jay clawed back the gap sending your BF packing in Omaha and winning a NC before Tony.

And again, clearly Tennessee is spending money on every program.

Vitello’s players aren’t playing for free.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8850 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:48 pm to
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You(republic in this example) are submitting facts and statements that can be verified/confirmed by anyone that has any sense of baseball goings on past 9th grade.

lol are you serious? He's the only person in this thread not posting statistics. He's posting subjective opinions that are objectively wrong.
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There’s nothing you can say to change their minds or way of thinking, regardless of how right you are, but it’s so fun watching how angry and imagining how hard they’re pounding their keyboard and giggling while typing the response to your latest post.

Ohh so this is just your alter, got it.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8850 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:51 pm to
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And again, clearly Tennessee is spending money on every program.

He has no idea that Tennessee dumped $100 million into the baseball program before Jay signed White and Skenes
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5485 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:51 pm to
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you're saying it right here. The length of time a player plays for a program has no bearing on how impactful that player is to a team in the present season.


False. Even is Poche played one season he was still a key piece of a staff that made a deep run

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Curiel would be in Center and it would open up another spot.


Nah Jay has said he doesn’t like playing freshmen in key defensive positions. See Milam 2024 to 2025

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from. This isn't 1985


You’re right, Jay needs to move Curiel to the 8 hole. Would be smart amirite
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5485 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:53 pm to
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Maybe, on top of everything else, he realized he didn't want to be a head coach.


You guys hunting buddies or something?
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