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re: Is there evidence of batters improving significantly under Jay Johnson?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:39 pm to burreauxxx
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:39 pm to burreauxxx
quote:This is too stupid to ignore.
You guys make too much of a 9-hole hitter who literally has no serious future in baseball.
If being excited over an ok SEC player with limited hitting skills or upside who happens to be on a little heater is your thing, then float on baw
Our 9 hole hitter leads the conference in doubles and is 6th in BA more than half way through the season. He has paired that with great defense.
quote:Why does this matter? You yourself has said this doesn't matter.
who literally has no serious future in baseball.
A few recent guys with no "serious future in baseball" that have played here:
Jared Poche
Antoine Duplantis
Cade Beloso
Gavin Dugas
Brayden Jobert
Alex Milazzo
It sure sucks to have guys light it up when they're not great draft prospects :/
quote:This kind of says everything about you and confirms you don't actually like LSU. You are actively rooting against and talking shite about guys who have had full seasons of productive play at LSU but because they haven't lit it up this far, you're clapping like a seal.
How’s your boys Jones, Milam and Larson doing in SEC play?
Well, at least you were 1-4
— just like those guys at the plate most nights
Just pathetic.
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:46 pm to burreauxxx
quote:Every time a player gets out I post "Hey he shouldn't get out" and it proves my point! This is the logic of a two year old. He has the lowest fly ball rate on the team. He does not hit fly balls, contradicting your first post on the matter stating that Stanfield was a "pop up hitter"
You’re right, it literally makes my point every time
quote:Classic you ignoring an entire year of data because "you don't really care about that."
Nah, I really don’t care about that. We weren’t shite in 2022
You love to post misleading data and try to imply Jay is a wizard at offense. Not taking into account things like the transfer portal and general surge in offensive baseball in recent years.
I mean anyone can buy turn-key players with Lipsey’s checkbook. That doesn’t require skill
There were two offensive transfer portal additions. Tyler McManus and All American Jacob Berry.
I'm sure there's no way Jay could have gotten Berry onto a college roster without the gun money am I right?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:47 pm to FredbullTN
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Braswell is hitting .324 in SEC
Yuge sample size too
He must be an All Conference candidate
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:54 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Our 9 hole hitter
That’s really all you needed to say. He’s a 9-hole hitter
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He has paired that with great defense.
He’s ok
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Jared Poche Antoine Duplantis Cade Beloso Gavin Dugas
Except these guys were key pieces for multiple years.
Not 9-hole hitters.
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This kind of says everything about you and confirms you don't actually like LSU
Nope, it just says you lost the debate because I called you out on all the other players you were gas lighting dating back to last season.
You love to conveniently bring up a 9-hole hitter while trying to forget about the struggles of your other “stars”.
Don’t deflect, just say you were wrong, Fauci
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:55 pm to PP7 for heisman
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m. He does not hit fly balls
Except when he literally does
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:57 pm to burreauxxx
Could you be more full of shite?
The answer is no.
Where are you when he elevates a line drive and hits a double. He has 13 in conference play, but you’re arguing he should just hit ground balls and try and leg it out.
You love to say that and never support it with any stats.
We were tied for 9/14 in OB% in the SEC in 2021.
In 2022 we were 2nd. We didn’t just get better than the season before, we got better than most of our peers.
the only “turn key” player he bought in 2022 was Jacob Berry, his own recruit.
Why wasn’t LSU scoring those runs before he got here then?
He’s won the 2nd most games
of any team since he got here and as many NC as any teams in that time
oh I see other things matter then.
Don’t seem to want to talk about the players other schools buy.
The answer is no.
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You’re right, it literally makes my point every time
Where are you when he elevates a line drive and hits a double. He has 13 in conference play, but you’re arguing he should just hit ground balls and try and leg it out.
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You love to post misleading data and try to imply Jay is a wizard at offense. Not taking into account things like the transfer portal and general surge in offensive baseball in recent years.
You love to say that and never support it with any stats.
We were tied for 9/14 in OB% in the SEC in 2021.
In 2022 we were 2nd. We didn’t just get better than the season before, we got better than most of our peers.
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I mean anyone can buy turn-key players with Lipsey’s checkbook.
the only “turn key” player he bought in 2022 was Jacob Berry, his own recruit.
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And it doesn’t take a genius to see that it’s swung to becoming an offensive sport more and more.
Why wasn’t LSU scoring those runs before he got here then?
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The thing you fail to acknowledge is that unless you win then none of it matters.
He’s won the 2nd most games
of any team since he got here and as many NC as any teams in that time
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Jay inherited and bought a team in 2023.
oh I see other things matter then.
Don’t seem to want to talk about the players other schools buy.
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His defenses were usually bad and the pitching wildly inconsistent because he couldn’t keep a pitching coach etc.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:03 pm to burreauxxx
quote:and that means absolutely nothing at all.
That’s really all you needed to say. He’s a 9-hole hitter
quote:What does that have to do with Chris Stanfield leading the team in batting average and doubles?
Except these guys were key pieces for multiple years.
Not 9-hole hitters.
Paul Skenes was only a key piece for one year. Therefore nothing he did counts and no one here gets credit for anything.
quote:That's not what gas lighting is. Are Steven Milam and Jared Jones underperfoming in conference play? Yes. Are they still guys I'd consider stars? Yes.
Nope, it just says you lost the debate because I called you out on all the other players you were gas lighting dating back to last season.
Ashton Larson got beat out by a Stanfield and Curiel, two guys playing as good anyone in the conference. No shame in that.
quote:Uh yeah I "bring up" the guy who leads our team in batting average who you said was a pop up hitter who needs to be out of the lineup.
You love to conveniently bring up a 9-hole hitter while trying to forget about the struggles of your other “stars”.
His position in the order has zero bearing on his ability or production.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:03 pm to SammyTiger
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Where are you when he elevates a line drive
That’s not elevating
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you’re arguing he should just hit ground balls and try and leg it out.
Yep, flat or on top. Approach every time
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We were tied for 9/14 in OB% in the SEC in 2021. In 2022 we were 2nd.
So you’re comparing him to Maineri who was a defensive coach. Fine
My point is that college baseball has progressively become more offensive the last 5-10 years. That’s just the truth.
But how many times has the elevated offensive data translated into LSU hosting regionals or making super regionals, Sammy?
So, is the answer is that Jay’s falling short then that tells me his offenses clearly aren’t good enough. And/or his defenses/pitching ain’t good
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the only “turn key” player he bought in 2022 was Jacob Berry, his own recruit.
True and they went nowhere. Lost to a Conference USA school in a regional despite inheriting Crews et al from Maineri/Cain
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:05 pm to SammyTiger
quote:he "couldn't keep a pitching coach" because he got guys P5 jobs
His defenses were usually bad and the pitching wildly inconsistent because he couldn’t keep a pitching coach etc.
His defense this year, spear headed by Stevan Milam and Chris Stanfield, is one of the better ones in the conference and country.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:08 pm to PP7 for heisman
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he "couldn't keep a pitching coach" because he got guys P5 jobs
Then why is Jason Kelly in College Station?
Agree defense is better this year aside from Catcher and 3B which have hurt the team at times
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:09 pm to burreauxxx
quote:It has led to a national championship 33% of the time.
But how many times has the elevated offensive data translated into LSU hosting regionals or making super regionals, Sammy?
His first year he got to follow known "defense first" coach Paul Mainieri that had zero starting pitching.
He won a title.
He lost 6 starters, 8 of the top 10 arms, and was an out away from hosting a super, which LSU wins probably 9/10 times with Holman/Jump.
Jay Johnson is recognized as one of the top offensive coaches in college baseball. Genuinely, why do you think you know more than everyone else in the sport. You are a retard.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:11 pm to burreauxxx
quote:Seriously? You're going to play ignorant here? Maybe because his conference was decimated, his resources were stripped, and the situation changed overnight without his input?
Then why is Jason Kelly in College Station?
Then he got a raise to go to A&m?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:13 pm to burreauxxx
quote:They lost to a team that had a top 5 pitching staff in the country.
True and they went nowhere. Lost to a Conference USA school in a regional despite inheriting Crews et al from Maineri/Cain
Also, "Crews et al." was literally Crews, Doughty, Morgan, Dugas. Josh Stevenson, Drew Bianco and Collier Cranford started/got meaningful at bats in post season play. Since that year, no one on that level has played a meaningful game at LSU.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:14 pm to burreauxxx
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That’s not elevating
It is
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Yep, flat or on top. Approach every time
if only he did that he might his 1.000 and you’d only complain about how he doesn’t steal enough bases
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So you’re comparing him to Maineri who was a defensive coach. Fine
No I am comparing the team he is meant to coach before and after he got here. You know the thing he was hired to do. Make us better.
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My point is that college baseball has progressively become more offensive the last 5-10 years. That’s just the truth.
College football did that too. that doesn’t mean coaching wasn’t necessary to bring LSU forward.
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But how many times has the elevated offensive data translated into LSU hosting regionals or making super regionals, Sammy?
1/3
He’s also won a NC 1/3
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So, is the answer is that Jay’s falling short then that tells me his offenses clearly aren’t good enough. And/or his defenses/pitching ain’t good
he’s won as many NCs as anyone since he’s been here. You keep saying winning is all that matters and then defiant it that as hosting a regional vs winning a NC.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:15 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Paul Skenes was only a key piece for one year.
You’re comparing Stanny with Skenes now? This only gets better
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Are they still guys I'd consider stars? Yes.
Gone n put them purple sunglasses on mane
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Ashton Larson got beat out by a Stanfield
Ashton will never play CF.
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Uh yeah I "bring up" the guy who leads our team in batting average who you said was a pop up hitter who needs to be out of the lineup.
He’s so good he’s batting 9th
What genius strategy by Jay
I remember tRant logic last year when Milam was “tearing it up” in the 6-7 hole :lol:
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:19 pm to PP7 for heisman
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His first year he got to follow known "defense first" coach Paul Mainieri that had zero starting pitching.
Then why didn’t Jay do a better job in the portal?
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was an out away from hosting a super
So close. Like a photo finish which Jay’s been in a lot of those
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Jay Johnson is recognized as one of the top offensive coaches in college baseball.
Solid in the Pac 12
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You are a retard.
Man just say I’m whipping your arse up and down this bitch
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:20 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Then he got a raise to go to A&m?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:21 pm to burreauxxx
quote:No, you did that, by somehow saying Stanfield's success doesn't matter because he's been here less than other players. I am using your logic. Jared Poche was in the rotation for more years than Paul Skenes, he is therefore a better asset to the team.
You’re comparing Stanny with Skenes now? This only gets better
quote:Ashton lost an outfield spot. Stanfield and Curiel took open outfield spots. Pretty simple.
Ashton will never play CF.
quote:We'll it seems to be working so far. He resets the lineup better than anyone outside of 5 players in the SEC.
He’s so good he’s batting 9th
What genius strategy by Jay
quote:It's already been established that Milam, when hitting the ball well, was doing so at the top half of the order.
I remember tRant logic last year when Milam was “tearing it up” in the 6-7 hole
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:22 pm to burreauxxx
Jason Kelly made $278,600.00 per year at Washington
Jason Kelly makes $700,000.00 per year at Texas A&m.
Jason Kelly makes $700,000.00 per year at Texas A&m.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:22 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Also, "Crews et al." was literally Crews, Doughty, Morgan, Dugas. Josh Stevenson, Drew Bianco and Collier Cranford started/got meaningful at bats in post season play. Since that year, no one on that level has played a meaningful game at LSU.
Oh I didn’t realize Beloso, Jaubert and them weren’t players Pawl n Cain recruited. Must’ve been holdovers from the Smoke days
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