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Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:31 pm to Salmon
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this was my entire point of this thread, that maybe somehow the new staff could instill some new confidence in Harris but people lose their minds if you are critical of Etling right now
Even now, people have completely failed to understand that it is possible to frick up a QB in the head.
People simply see, "hey, he can't hit his arse with both hands" and are unaware that yes, this CAN be caused by a QB having shaken confidence rather than a literal inability to throw the ball.
Is it possible BH is actually pretty awful? Well of course it's possible.
But how anyone can say that with certainty given our track record with QBs is beyond me.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:33 pm to LNCHBOX
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You're bringing up racism in a sport that is at a minimum 70% black. Just shut up already. You're embarrassing yourself.
I'm quoting him word for word.
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Time to roll with Etling and not look back. We've been needing a Matt Mauck/Matt Flynn/ Zach Mettenberger type of quarterback for a long time now.
What does that mean? Why those 3 QBs?
Don't play dumb.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:33 pm to slackster
quote:Well, a decent place to start might be that NFL teams CLEARLY felt Flynn was more worth their time.
There isn't much else to evaluate for him though. I mean the Peach Bowl was excellent I guess.
You're not going to get me to knock Mauck. He's one of my favorite LSU players.
But, that doesn't require me to be retarded about it.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:34 pm to lsupride87
Ok. Harris did not improve at all from last year to this year. Sorry but that matters.... Too be honest I am not sure who starts, but IMO they have a better chance at winning with Etling.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:35 pm to slackster
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Don't play dumb.
You're not going to be happy until someone says f that n word. That's all you're going for. It's never going to happen.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:36 pm to ShortyRob
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Well, a decent place to start might be that NFL teams CLEARLY felt Flynn was more worth their time.
Come on, by that metric Flynn was better than Jamarcus.
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But, that doesn't require me to be retarded about it.
What is so ridiculous about suggesting that Mauck was a balance between Flynn and Mett? Clearly Flynn and Mett are worlds apart. Mauck settles nicely between them.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:36 pm to ShortyRob
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Is it possible BH is actually pretty awful? Well of course it's possible.
But how anyone can say that with certainty given our track record with QBs is beyond me.
I don't think he's as bad as some believe. And you're right. Given our history of fking up QB progression, we may never know nor be able to tap into his skill set and make him a better QB.
My hope is that the coaching shakeup will give BH a fresh outlook and possibly allow him to regain his confidence and perform like he's capable of.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:37 pm to slackster
quote:There's only one other full season QB worth mentioning and that would be JR.
What does that mean? Why those 3 QBs? Don't play dumb.
Maybe he didn't go that far back?
And, maybe he means we don't need anyone spectacular, just efficient. Having another JR would be nice, but, we don't really NEED another JR.
There are many ways to take it if you aren't in 24/7 "offended" mode.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:37 pm to LNCHBOX
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You're not going to be happy
Just admit it was a lazy comparison because they're white. That's all. The two closes QBs to Etling thus far have been Flynn and Jefferson. Mett really doesn't belong in the conversation whatsoever.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:38 pm to slackster
quote:Well, I mean, other than that literally no one thought that contemporaneously, nothing I suppose.
What is so ridiculous about suggesting that Mauck was a balance between Flynn and Mett? Clearly Flynn and Mett are worlds apart. Mauck settles nicely between them.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:39 pm to slackster
I won't admit anything to you. You continue to push for it to be a racially based comment, and you're just mad it's not.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:40 pm to LNCHBOX
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I won't admit anything to you. You continue to push for it to be a racially based comment, and you're just mad it's not.
Yeah.
He must've been pissed as frick when the debate was between AJ and BH.
I mean, couldn't play the "oh, look, racism" meme.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:40 pm to ShortyRob
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Maybe he didn't go that far back?
He said Mauck, so...
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There's only one other full season QB worth mentioning
Jefferson in 2009 is 100% worth mentioning too.
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And, maybe he means we don't need anyone spectacular, just efficient.
Mett was excellent in 2013. He has nothing in common with Flynn/Mauck and nothing in common with Etling.
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There are many ways to take it if you aren't in 24/7 "offended" mode.
I'm not offended. It was a lazy arse comparison at best. Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:44 pm to slackster
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I'm not offended. It was a lazy arse comparison at best.
OK. And THAT is another way to take it which doesn't involved "waaaaahhhh racism"!!!!!!!
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:44 pm to ShortyRob
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He must've been pissed as frick when the debate was between AJ and BH. I mean, couldn't play the "oh, look, racism" meme.
Oh come on I'm not a hack about it.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:48 pm to ShortyRob
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OK. And THAT is another way to take it which doesn't involved "waaaaahhhh racism"!!!!!!!
I said that in my original post.
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I'm not saying it is a racially motivated comment, but it definitely doesn't look good, does it?
That was how I ended the post after explaining why it was a dumb grouping.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:50 pm to dukke v
quote:And etling hasnt improved from 2013 and 2014........ Everyone keeps talking about Harris not improving after a whole season, well, etling also had 13 starts under his belt, and this were his stats
Ok. Harris did not improve at all from last year to this year. Sorry but that matters.
238/429 for 55%
191 yards per game
16tds 12 ints
110 rating against a big ten purdue schedule
Brandon Harris 2015 season
149/277 for 53%
196 yards per game
13 tds and 6ints
130 rating against the SEC
THEY ARE DAMN NEAR IDENTICAL QBS before this season, with a slight edge to Harris. Now, lets look at this season
Harris
13/25 52% 5.56 YPA 1td 2ints 95 rating
Etling
40/71 56% 4.37 YPA 56% 3tds 1 int 118 rating
they are damn near identical again, with a slight edge to Etling
Lnch and others saying they are light years apart is hilarious
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:51 pm to slackster
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That was how I ended the post after explaining why it was a dumb grouping.
There's a difference between race affecting something and racISM being involved.
I mean, if it was "racism" every time race entered into sports, then every single instance of
Coach on the field
Great Route Runner
Possession receiver
and the converse
referring to POSSESSION black WRs as "deep threats"
referring to all black QBs as "dual threat"
etc etc.
People bring assumptions quite often. That isn't "racism". It may not be smart, but it isn't racism.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:54 pm to lsupride87
The talent Harris had to work with is far far better than what Etling had at Purdue.... FACT.
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