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re: Is our fan base divided or do we just have a few select idiots?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:01 am to MandevilleLSUTiger
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:01 am to MandevilleLSUTiger
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Its argued with because it wasn't applied last year
Lets try to stay in this year.
Its a good year to be in rather than 'last year it wasn't blah blah...'. 
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:02 am to MandevilleLSUTiger
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Whether or not you agree with it- it was much easier for Lee to lose his job this year than it was for JJ to lose his last year. And that is what some people take issue with, right or wrong.
disagree, it was apparent last year that the staff knew Lee could play well in stretches but could freak out at any point, therefore didn't trust turning the reins over to him...and that same thing is apparent now as well.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:02 am to tduecen
uhh-- Les did say this before the Ole Miss game. He said when questioned by the ESPN sideline reporter, 'Jefferson is the starter because he earned it'
Next....
Next....
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:03 am to LSUBCILUVTHEM
LINK? because that would have been 1 full page on the rant and I did not see that happen
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:04 am to ScoopAndScore
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I'd love to see anyone argue with this logic.
that '"logic" as you call for some reason didnt appply last year with these two.
God forbid you frick up vs the best defnese in college football and lose your starting spot.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 9:06 am
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:05 am to wmLSU
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You're crazy. People don't like JJ, the way the offense looked with him for 3 years, nor do they like the way Les is apparently shoving JL to the side to play "his son". No one is unhappy with winning, but with no explanation from the coach it looks and feels like favoritism, not JJ winning the job. I'm just glad the guy is gone next year and this becomes the past.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:05 am to tduecen
He did say it. He was talking about the ole miss game specifically though.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:06 am to TIGRLEE
Wow you agree with that post?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:10 am to BeeFense5
Ah he needs to say it about the season....
I will say I believe Lee through his play this season had earned the starting job (despite circumstances it was given to him, I think he did earn it). I do not agree that one bad game can cost you even though I agree he needed to be pulled in that bad game.
As far as which QB gives LSU a better chance to win, I think honestly it is the same. Both QB's are limited and as much as we like to talk about what Jefferson brings running, LSU has a stable of running backs that can run the ball. If Jefferson can continue to be accurate and show touch on his passes then it does give him an edge. LSU will need to complete the ball through the air, which is something Lee had been doing and if Jefferson continues then great. Yet I do not really think either one provides and edge in the W/L department over the other. LSU is winning because of running game, special teams, and defense.
I will say I believe Lee through his play this season had earned the starting job (despite circumstances it was given to him, I think he did earn it). I do not agree that one bad game can cost you even though I agree he needed to be pulled in that bad game.
As far as which QB gives LSU a better chance to win, I think honestly it is the same. Both QB's are limited and as much as we like to talk about what Jefferson brings running, LSU has a stable of running backs that can run the ball. If Jefferson can continue to be accurate and show touch on his passes then it does give him an edge. LSU will need to complete the ball through the air, which is something Lee had been doing and if Jefferson continues then great. Yet I do not really think either one provides and edge in the W/L department over the other. LSU is winning because of running game, special teams, and defense.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:10 am to ForeLSU
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disagree, it was apparent last year that the staff knew Lee could play well in stretches but could freak out at any point, therefore didn't trust turning the reins over to him...and that same thing is apparent now as well
An 8 game stretch vs numerous top 25 teams at home and on the road.
Gotcha.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:10 am to Uncommon Cents
What's wrong w/ keeping both QBs sharp? There's gotta be more to the story that the fans don't know (ie the class/grades rumors). I just hope JL doesn't need to come in, in a pressure situation, & is rusty because he hasn't played in a few weeks.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:11 am to tduecen
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I will say I believe Lee through his play this season had earned the starting job (despite circumstances it was given to him, I think he did earn it). I do not agree that one bad game can cost you even though I agree he needed to be pulled in that bad game.
As far as which QB gives LSU a better chance to win, I think honestly it is the same. Both QB's are limited and as much as we like to talk about what Jefferson brings running, LSU has a stable of running backs that can run the ball. If Jefferson can continue to be accurate and show touch on his passes then it does give him an edge. LSU will need to complete the ball through the air, which is something Lee had been doing and if Jefferson continues then great. Yet I do not really think either one provides and edge in the W/L department over the other. LSU is winning because of running game, special teams, and defense.
couldnt agree with you more.
Good post.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:12 am to tduecen
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I will say I believe Lee through his play this season had earned the starting job (despite circumstances it was given to him, I think he did earn it). I do not agree that one bad game can cost you even though I agree he needed to be pulled in that bad game. As far as which QB gives LSU a better chance to win, I think honestly it is the same. Both QB's are limited and as much as we like to talk about what Jefferson brings running, LSU has a stable of running backs that can run the ball. If Jefferson can continue to be accurate and show touch on his passes then it does give him an edge. LSU will need to complete the ball through the air, which is something Lee had been doing and if Jefferson continues then great. Yet I do not really think either one provides and edge in the W/L department over the other. LSU is winning because of running game, special teams, and defense.
No one can argue with that. Great post.
I'm just hoping this magical ride continues. To me, both these qb's have improved tremendously. Both of them will be needed to reach our goals.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:14 am to tduecen
It was on the live ESPN coverage.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:14 am to BeeFense5
They both have, Jefferson has showed some touch on his passes which had been missing in previous season, even on medium/deep throws. Lee had you told people he had a 3/1 TD/INT ratio and completed 62% of his passes coming into the season would have looked at you like you were stupid. Krag is a miracle worker
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:17 am to tduecen
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will say this, I wish Les would just come out and say, "Jefferson is the starter, I believe he gives the team the best chance to win. I appreciate what Lee has done for the team but he understands his roll
His job is not to please the fans. It's to win football games. And he's done that better than any coach in America.
also what's your point with the Brady comparison? That the coaches play the best players they see in practice?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:18 am to TIGRLEE
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God forbid you frick up vs the best defnese in college football and lose your starting spot.
JJ was going to start again sooner or later. this is a fact...some people just didn't want to accept it.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:18 am to LSUzealot
quote:Brady earned the job due to an injury to Bledsoe, then through his play retained the job despite bad performances that season.... Maybe Bledsoe should have kicked a guy in a head I guess and he would have gotten his job back
also what's your point with the Brady comparison? That the coaches play the best players they see in practice?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:19 am to tduecen
Im by no means a JJ fan, But it became very apparent to me against Ole miss just why he is n ow starting. He will be the one who has to lead us to a national Title. He played very well,i know it was Ole miss, But he is just alittle more dangerous than Lee.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:20 am to TIGRLEE
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An 8 game stretch vs numerous top 25 teams at home and on the road.
Gotcha.
Which one of those games was won b/c of QB play?
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