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re: Is our fan base divided or do we just have a few select idiots?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:26 pm to just me
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:26 pm to just me
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Jefferson's Passing Efficiency has been hugely impressive starting with the Alabama game in 2010
wasnt crowton here last year?...isnt that the base of your argument, crowton being gone?
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:28 pm to Boh
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From the Moo St. game to the Bama game, no one was criticizing Lee (rightfully so)
uh, i remember distinctively 8....looking up post history now..
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:29 pm to Boh
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It's so obvious that Crowton wasn't getting the job done.
so you can throw out last years JJ stats "from Bamma on" if it was all crowton...
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:29 pm to TigerFan55555
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uh, i remember distinctively 8....looking up post history now..
Alright, it was a general statement. There will be some people who criticize just to do it. Some people criticize Brees on every incomplete pass, it just happens.
But I do think that a lot of the "JJ supporters" would acknowledge that up until the Bama game, Lee was pretty damn impressive.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:30 pm to TigerFan55555
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so you can throw out last years JJ stats "from Bamma on" if it was all crowton...
Fine with me. I don't give a shite how either quarterback did before this season because it's so obvious that they can both get it done at a very high level right now.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:35 pm to Boh
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Fine with me. I don't give a shite how either quarterback did before this season because it's so obvious that they can both get it done at a very high level right now.
ill go with this, if JJ plays well, ill say he played well, just like i said two nights ago that I though JJ played well vs Ole Miss...but again...they and wku are terrible....and I still dont believe that JJ has earned the position...I still miss the offense from the first 8 games...Im sure RR misses it too...
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:38 pm to ksliman
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Is our fan base divided or do we just have a few select idiots?
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I'm going with more than a few idiots who have no idea what it takes to succeed at any venture because (I'm guessing) many or most have never had to earn anything in their lives.
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Now here is a person well versed in success and diversity in life.
As a fan since '57, graduate, moderately successful and retired, I take issue. Two perspectives: 1) Jefferson for the past three years has scared me shitless, despite some excellent games, for that period. This and his run-in with the bar-lot mess lowered my opinion of his character. 2) Lee had a terrible start as a freshman and due to JJ's issue got a chance this year and performed.
The little I see of JJ other than his performance on the field, is on camera on the bench. Lee was always supportive of JJ in those instances (when he was on the bench) and I don't see that from JJ. What I "see" is a little of the "I guess I showed you b$#@) mannerisms".
Take it for what you will IMHO. Unconvinced of either being a truly adequate or quality QB.
Bottom line I support the team and whomever is performing on the field!
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Is our fan base divided or do we just have a few select idiots?
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I'm going with more than a few idiots who have no idea what it takes to succeed at any venture because (I'm guessing) many or most have never had to earn anything in their lives.
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Now here is a person well versed in success and diversity in life.
As a fan since '57, graduate, moderately successful and retired, I take issue. Two perspectives: 1) Jefferson for the past three years has scared me shitless, despite some excellent games, for that period. This and his run-in with the bar-lot mess lowered my opinion of his character. 2) Lee had a terrible start as a freshman and due to JJ's issue got a chance this year and performed.
The little I see of JJ other than his performance on the field, is on camera on the bench. Lee was always supportive of JJ in those instances (when he was on the bench) and I don't see that from JJ. What I "see" is a little of the "I guess I showed you b$#@) mannerisms".
Take it for what you will IMHO. Unconvinced of either being a truly adequate or quality QB.
Bottom line I support the team and whomever is performing on the field!
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:45 pm to Choctaw
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they could have a great job, beautiful wife, wonderful kids...and they'll bitch because the neighbor kid walked on his grass
Whats wrong with bitching because some little bastard is walking on my grass? Thats what the sidewalk or street is for...
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:47 pm to TigerFan55555
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I still miss the offense from the first 8 games
this the part of this whole thing these dudes wont acknowledge, much less answer for.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:50 pm to TIGRLEE
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quote: I still miss the offense from the first 8 games this the part of this whole thing these dudes wont acknowledge, much less answer for.
Yeah because the offense hasn't been rolling the last two weeks.
Are you agreeing with Tiger555555555555555? Are you reading his posts on the last few pages? He is almost jhornet rantard level at the point. Seriously read how wrong this guy is.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:57 pm to BeeFense5
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Yeah because the offense hasn't been rolling the last two weeks
seriously?
will you at least ackowldege those are the 2 of the 3 weakest teams on the schedule?
I dont care what other people post.
I dont need someone to "side up" with... I have an opinon on this subject, and for the most part the things I say are legit.
YOu can disagree with them.. thats fine, but they are relevant.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:01 pm to TIGRLEE
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will you at least ackowldege those are the 2 of the 3 weakest teams on the schedule?
Keep moving the goal posts to change the criticism. At first it was JJ can't play well against lesser teams. Then he goes out and does it and you use it against him.
Lee has played well this year man. Everyone who actually doesn't think JJ is such a horrible qb like you and your ilk feel have told you this. You can't seem to say the same about the other guy. Like you are insecure about lee or something.
But continuing to change the criticism just to be critical of JJ is what makes people call you out all the time.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:12 pm to BeeFense5
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Keep moving the goal posts to change the criticism. At first it was JJ can't play well against lesser teams. Then he goes out and does it and you use it against him.
geeeeeeeees.
Im not critisizig anybody nor am I using anything against anyone.
Im stating a fact that a qb, any fricking qb's play vs wuk and om doesnt hold a candle to playing all the other teams LSU has played this year.
I know it and you know it... jsut admit it.
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JJ is such a horrible qb like you
Once again.. there you going saying and incinuating things that I havent said and dont think.
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But continuing to change the criticism just to be critical of JJ is what makes people call you out all the time.
If you will pay attention, the things people call me out on are things I havent even said.. take this post for example.
A ton of assumptions that you make up in your head.
As I just posted you will not acknowdeledge the fact that are offense was fine with everybody on the planet earth after 8 games, and now it seems we are going to do something different.
I dont have an answer for it, obv you dont either, thats why you will not even discuss that part of it,..... I dont blame you.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:22 pm to TIGRLEE
Hell yes the offense in the first 8 ganes was awesome. But it will always be based on the run. I doubt we score more against wk or piss with lee at the helm. The team wasnt very motivated and started slow against wk and still scored 42 points (but yeah the jj safety was pretty terrible). I could see the offense running with the same success against piss with lee under center, and we would have taken the foot off the gas and scored 52, just as we did with jj
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:26 pm to BeeFense5
TIGRLEE, I don't see why you bother. If you didn't notice, you're arguing with the same people that originally claimed Jefferson was innocent. Then, moved from innocent or not, "teamsweep" will do what's right because the team needs him. After they saw that this behavior was overly biased and ignorant, they have begun to say that JJ was being persecuted because of his race. Then, these people continued to make "what if that were Jefferson playing" remarks for the first how many ever games Lee played and played well, instead of crediting Lee. Then they swore JJ should be starting the day he got back on the team, which by the way he is still accountable for what's considered a "violent crime." Then, after JJ's first few mediocre performances, they started making that general argument of how "dual threats (mainly black QBs) are better than pocket passers (mainly white QBs) in general."
These people have done nothing but suggest that JJ is the man and this is "his" team (and by this im assuming they meant the team demographics and preference). Contrary to their statements, they've never given JJ any REAL credit, only enough to make themselves look less biased, even though there was always a "Jarrett Lee did well, BUT: (JJ would have done better, JL is scared to get hit, this must be Krags in action not JL, etc. etc).
My point is you're wasting your time. For all the finger pointing going on towards the "LSU FANBASE," many of these critics, and i do mean the vast majority, are just as biased.
You'll see next year too. Mett will NEED a dual threat to rotate in with him. We've already seen Mett has bad character for changing a play to a naked bootleg statements. It's pathetic, but don't take offense unless you're seeing arguments from people besides the same 10 or less than seem to post majority of the ignorant statements on this board.
These people have done nothing but suggest that JJ is the man and this is "his" team (and by this im assuming they meant the team demographics and preference). Contrary to their statements, they've never given JJ any REAL credit, only enough to make themselves look less biased, even though there was always a "Jarrett Lee did well, BUT: (JJ would have done better, JL is scared to get hit, this must be Krags in action not JL, etc. etc).
My point is you're wasting your time. For all the finger pointing going on towards the "LSU FANBASE," many of these critics, and i do mean the vast majority, are just as biased.
You'll see next year too. Mett will NEED a dual threat to rotate in with him. We've already seen Mett has bad character for changing a play to a naked bootleg statements. It's pathetic, but don't take offense unless you're seeing arguments from people besides the same 10 or less than seem to post majority of the ignorant statements on this board.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:27 pm to larry289
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As a fan since '57, graduate, moderately successful and retired, I take issue. Two perspectives: 1) Jefferson for the past three years has scared me shitless, despite some excellent games, for that period. This and his run-in with the bar-lot mess lowered my opinion of his character. 2) Lee had a terrible start as a freshman and due to JJ's issue got a chance this year and performed. The little I see of JJ other than his performance on the field, is on camera on the bench. Lee was always supportive of JJ in those instances (when he was on the bench) and I don't see that from JJ. What I "see" is a little of the "I guess I showed you b$#@) mannerisms". Take it for what you will IMHO. Unconvinced of either being a truly adequate or quality QB. Bottom line I support the team and whomever is performing on the field!
i got killed for saying this a few months ago....
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:29 pm to geauxgeebs
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geauxgeebs
amen brother..
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:29 pm to geauxgeebs
quote:I give you an A for creativity.
TIGRLEE, I don't see why you bother. If you didn't notice, you're arguing with the same people that originally claimed Jefferson was innocent. Then, moved from innocent or not, "teamsweep" will do what's right because the team needs him. After they saw that this behavior was overly biased and ignorant, they have begun to say that JJ was being persecuted because of his race. Then, these people continued to make "what if that were Jefferson playing" remarks for the first how many ever games Lee played and played well, instead of crediting Lee. Then they swore JJ should be starting the day he got back on the team, which by the way he is still accountable for what's considered a "violent crime." Then, after JJ's first few mediocre performances, they started making that general argument of how "dual threats (mainly black QBs) are better than pocket passers (mainly white QBs) in general."
These people have done nothing but suggest that JJ is the man and this is "his" team (and by this im assuming they meant the team demographics and preference). Contrary to their statements, they've never given JJ any REAL credit, only enough to make themselves look less biased, even though there was always a "Jarrett Lee did well, BUT: (JJ would have done better, JL is scared to get hit, this must be Krags in action not JL, etc. etc).
My point is you're wasting your time. For all the finger pointing going on towards the "LSU FANBASE," many of these critics, and i do mean the vast majority, are just as biased.
You'll see next year too. Mett will NEED a dual threat to rotate in with him. We've already seen Mett has bad character for changing a play to a naked bootleg statements. It's pathetic, but don't take offense unless you're seeing arguments from people besides the same 10 or less than seem to post majority of the ignorant statements on this board.
Your facts and analysis are complete bullshite.
But hey, you tell an interesting story. Pure fiction, but I like it.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:32 pm to TigerFan55555
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i got killed for saying this a few months ago....
you never said this
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Bottom line I support the team and whomever is performing on the field!
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:44 pm to geauxgeebs
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geauxgeebs
you nailed it.
Alot of these dudes are still mad bc I said when the video came out that the guy yelled JJ's name.
WHich he did, and most people came to admit.
Ah frick it... I want an secc and nc.
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