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re: Is it unrealistic to think that JJ has improved 15%

Posted on 9/1/10 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23479 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 2:45 pm to
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2009 – 2,508 yds., 61%, 17 TDs, 7 ints.

fify
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 2:47 pm to
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Think JJ starts off strong and then digresses.


I agree...but when he starts off slow it doesnt get any better and I remember quite a few times that happening...

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I don't care what the stats are, just move the chains.


def agree with this...we couldnt move the chains last year to save our life...

I do miss JR sometimes because that offense had some serious firepower...all the skill guys and Jamarcus just flipping his wrist and putting it on the money for a 50 yard gain...miss those days...

and for the record JJ is no where in the same realm as JRussell when it comes to talent...JJ is a big kid but no where near the same arm...and I remember he learned some touch in his 2nd year...hoping JJ can do the same...
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 2:53 pm to
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MightyYat


theres my old friend..

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It was completely JJ's fault that we couldn't run the ball due to bump and run nickel coverage?


about half the time YES...im tired of people blaming the O-line for everything...if i had to put % it would be %50 JJ %25 Line %25 play calling... and play calling was because he couldnt do anything... although option to the short side of the field was assinine by Crowton...

bump and run is where the 4 down lineman pinch the middle and the backers take the edge...it looks like 4 down lineman but its really six b/c the backers look run first!

Im sorry but Keiland and Scott didnt suck...o-line was having to deal with their problems as well as Jeffersons...that aint fair...
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49035 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 2:55 pm to
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It was completely JJ's fault that we couldn't run the ball due to bump and run nickel coverage?


This made me laugh
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49035 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 2:59 pm to
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bump and run is where the 4 down lineman pinch the middle and the backers take the edge.


That's not even close to the definition of "bump and run coverage."
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:00 pm to
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bump and run is where the 4 down lineman pinch the middle and the backers take the edge...it looks like 4 down lineman but its really six b/c the backers look run first!



You're not even close with this one brah.
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:01 pm to
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bump and run is where the 4 down lineman pinch the middle and the backers take the edge.




That's not even close to the definition of "bump and run coverage."


shite, see what you people make me do. You're gonna go a make me agree with Antonio Moss?

As painful as it is, AM is correct!!!
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49035 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:01 pm to
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As painful as it is, AM is correct!!!


Get used to it.
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:02 pm to
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JL got worse as his playing time increased


To be fair, as the year progressed last year, JJ looked to digress a bit and become less comfortable and less confident also...

Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:04 pm to
Listen 5s. JJ had his faults last year, there's no doubt about that. But when the other team can get pressure with 4 linemen and stop the run with 4 or 5 in the box it makes it awfully difficult to sling it around. When it's 6 or 7 vs 3 or 4 your odds aren't very good.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:04 pm to
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Antonio Moss


its nickel coverage arse wipe...bump and run is four lineman and two backers right behind the ends...leaving the middle open!!! but we couldnt throw it there because we had a QB that couldnt do it and an OC that wouldnt let him do it...

how many times did we throw to the middle of the field?...hardly ever!!! so why the frick would a DC put someone there....god your fricking idiot! im done with you...go away..
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:06 pm to
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Get used to it.


Hey hey hey. Don't push it.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49035 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:07 pm to
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its nickel coverage arse wipe


Which refers to having five DBs in the game. Think about it. Five cents in a nickel.

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...bump and run is four lineman and two backers right behind the ends...leaving the middle open!!!


Nope. You are way off. "Bump and Run" refers to the style of defense played by the DBs when position over the Wide Out. The DB jams the receiver at the line in attempt to mess up the route. Bump and Run coverage has absolutely nothing to do with the positioning of the LBs and DL.

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but we couldnt throw it there because we had a QB that couldnt do it and an OC that wouldnt let him do it...


Keep digging.

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how many times did we throw to the middle of the field?...hardly ever!!! so why the frick would a DC put someone there....god your fricking idiot! im done with you...go away..


Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:12 pm to
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its nickel coverage arse wipe...bump and run is four lineman and two backers right behind the ends...leaving the middle open!!!


Okay, lets be clear on something Scooter.....YOU ARE WRONG!!!!

A nickel package (not coverage, arse wipe) is when you have 5 DBs in the game instead of the normal 4 DBs. It is like having an extra CB or Safety in the middle of the field.

BUMP AND RUN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LINEMEN!!!

Bump and run is when a Cornerback lines up real close to the line of scrimmage and directly in front of the WR. At the snap of the ball, the CB will reach out and jam (hence, the BUMP) the reciever to disrupt the timing and/or direction of his route. The jam (or Bump) is only for a half-second to a second long. Then the CB will turn and RUN with the receiver in order to provide coverage.

Are we clear now?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:12 pm to
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arse wipe


You're proven wrong and then you call names?

Grow up.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49035 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:13 pm to
For a great example of how to play bump and run coverage, rewatch the second half of the LSU v. Troy game in 2008.

Troy had a receiver that was killing us in the first half. Peterson started playing man-to-man, bump and run coverage on him in the 3rd quarter. He had one catch the rest of the night.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:14 pm to
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its nickel coverage arse wipe...bump and run is four lineman and two backers right behind the ends...leaving the middle open!!! but we couldnt throw it there because we had a QB that couldnt do it and an OC that wouldnt let him do it...

how many times did we throw to the middle of the field?...hardly ever!!! so why the frick would a DC put someone there....god your fricking idiot! im done with you...go away..


As usual you're wrong when it comes to understanding the game of football. My 11 year old could work your arse when it comes to basic football knowledge.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:14 pm to
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Are we clear now?


He's just going to keep arguing with you.

This is really a lost cause.
Posted by Jake85
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2009
549 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:16 pm to
It is seriously time for the season to start. Saturday can't get here quick enough.
Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
8934 posts
Posted on 9/1/10 at 3:17 pm to
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bump and run is where the 4 down lineman pinch the middle and the backers take the edge...it looks like 4 down lineman but its really six b/c the backers look run first!
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