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re: IMO... Only way to beat Bama

Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:49 am to
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:49 am to
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False. Ole Miss back ran for 101 on them


I stand somewhat corrected. Ole Miss ran for 88 yards total. Here is a link LINK Bama is allowing 66 yards rushing per game and ranked #1 in the country in rush defense.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:49 am to
[quote]they tried this last year remember? etling threw about plenty of balls at the feet of receivers on 5 yard quick outs.


Didn't remember
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:51 am to
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why did Miles stop recruiting these?
Miles got away from big, strong OLinemen and tried to go smaller and faster for zone blocking. Doesn't work against bama, plus they never mastered it.

We don't just need deep dl and ol; we need big, strong guys. Our OL has been too weak.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:52 am to
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The way you beat Bama is the way no one wants to hear. You have to do what we did in 2010. Run the ball effectively, stay in 3rd and short, make the plays in the passing game on 50/50 balls.
That's not how A&M and Ole Miss beat bama when they did. They used good blocking and aggressive passing strategies.
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:54 am to
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Colorado State went for over 100yds too


This is also correct. They actually ran for 144. The 75 yards rushing (was actually 71) was in SEC play before Ole Miss ran for 88 total.

Vandy 40
TAMU 71
Arkansas 27
Tenn 64
Ole Miss 88
Posted by Spankem
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
1079 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:54 am to
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1) Load the box to stop the run and trust DB's to go one-on-one with Bama receivers. 2) Etling hit short drop, short passes. Don't think line can protect him long enough for regular drop-backs and Bama will shut down Guice like they did Fournette the last couple of years.
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That is a good strategy. I think that our Defense will hold the tide to 20 points. We need to not get into third and long situations. The quandary is do you risk giving up a down for a chance at the long ball and how often do you do that? Another thought. Spread offenses with very athletic quarterbacks have been effective against bama in the past. I just don't think that we have the personnel to do this. It will be interesting to see what Canada comes up with.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:56 am to
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Spread offenses with very athletic quarterbacks have been effective against bama in the past. I just don't think that we have the personnel to do this. It will be interesting to see what Canada comes up with.


Would be neat if LSU goes to the spread for this game. Maybe use Brennan to run the ball some.
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:57 am to
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False. Ole Miss back ran for 101 on them

And that's with 35 yards removed from sacks on passing plays.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:58 am to
A couple of posts have mentioned Ole Miss and Colorado St. Bama wasn't up for those games... They may have been up some for Ole Miss but def not Colorado State. But LSU... a totally different story... they get 2 weeks prep for us.
Posted by Spankem
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
1079 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:01 am to
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Bama is allowing 66 yards rushing per game and ranked #1 in the country in rush defense.


Canada is really good at not running the offense into a defenses strength. I would assume that the game plan is going to be passing more than we have against other teams. Quick slants, screens, occasional deep balls to Chark etc...Bama is very disciplined. I don't know how much the misdirection/jet sweep type plays will work, but am curious to see if they do.
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:02 am to
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The quandary is do you risk giving up a down for a chance at the long ball and how often do you do that?

If the line shows it can hold up for 3.5 seconds I say early and often. If Chark can beat a DB with his speed, or Davis/Sullivan with their size and athleticism on jump balls it will keep their safeties back. They might even go into a nickel set.

The fewer safeties and linebackers around the LOS the better our chances of running successfully.

We have to move the chains, avoid 3 and outs and keep our defense fresh to have a chance.

Do all that and when we get in the red zone make sure to come out with 7 instead of 3 and we've got a real shot to win.
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:03 am to
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And that's with 35 yards removed from sacks on passing plays.


FALSE. Shea Patterson had -16 yards rushing, not 35. No other quarterback took a snap for Ole Miss that day. It's literally in the link I provided. And that's how college football rushing yards are calculated. You still haven't responded to this LINK care to comment?
Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:04 am to
Rushing Yards allowed by Alabama in their 4 losses the last three years:
2016 vs Clemson: allowed 91yds rushing on 42 carries (also gave up over 400yds passing)
2015 vs Ole Miss: allowed 92yds rushing on 32 carries (also gave up over 340yds passing)
2014 vs Ohio State: allowed 281yds rushing on 42 carries (gave up over 500yds total offense)
2014 vs Ole Miss: allowed 76yds rushing on 32 carries (gave up over 320yds total offense)

It comes down to turnovers and time of possession. In 3 of those 4 losses, they didn't allow 100yds rushing. We aren't going to rush for over 100yds on their defense with our OL and our QB. We need to win time of possession and win the turn-over battle.




Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:04 am to
the things tenn did successfully against them are the kinds of things that canada has done well this season. when tenn got in trouble was deep drop, downfield passing attempts. bama destroyed that. i like what canada has been doing all season, misdirection, against bama's d. it remains to be seen if the players can execute. i have no doubt canada is going to have some new looks too.

on offense, bama isn't spectacular. they hit plays when they need it. they don't use a lot of misdirection and shifts. if the d can wrap up and shore up the middle, they will probably do ok.

of course, this is all easier said than done and bama usually plays inspired football against the tigers
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7560 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:05 am to
I agree 100%

Short passes to tight ends, receivers in front of the linebackers and jet sweeps. Keep the linebackers off to he one of scrimmage. Screens as well

The easy day was......Yesterday

Go Navy

Posted by Damariun
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2016
633 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:06 am to
Keep them off balanced
Expose their DB'S
Make Jalen win with his arm
Manage clock
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:09 am to
What really excites me about this game is that we've shown so much different shite on offense Bama has no idea how we plan to attack them.

We may see a totally different offense against them.

What do they prepare for? Two weeks to think about it maybe one week too many.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 11:11 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75440 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:14 am to
We recruited a lot of both

Some weren’t very good or left the team

And we missed in a lot of DLinemen because Brick sucked.

Miles brought in O to sorta turn that around.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:14 am to
offensively, we have to strike with what they show us. If they load the box, Etling has to be able exploit the man coverage, specifically with completing back shoulder throws to Chark. Be successful in the PA with completing throws to Moreau. We have to get them to respect the pass and even the jet sweep. If they do, I know Guice will get to eating along with throwing out of the backfield to Williams.

The trick to beating bama is to beat their depth by controlling the time of possession.

Lastly, with all of the offensive movement this season, we have got to control the penalties. We've gotten better, but Nov 4th has to be perfect.

Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:18 am to
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The trick to beating bama is to beat their depth by controlling the time of possession.

Agree completely
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