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re: I'm Watching the '16 BAMA game - a few thoughts...

Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62466 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:58 pm to
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There are 2 games in my life that i knew we would not win after watching the first drive. 2012 NC vs Bama, and 2016 vs Bama.


I think it's funny that so many people think that we were close to winning 2016 Bama. While our defense put on one hell of a performance, our offense could not do squat, and it was apparent as the 3rd quarter was winding down that Bama was beginning to move the ball almost at will against our defense.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:30 pm to
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Why didnt we run the offensive gameplan that we used against Mizzou?


I'm not sure LSU didn't and I'm not going back to watch both games to decide. At this point in time it doesn't fricking matter. I have watched the 30 minute video on youtube (shows all the plays) of the game where the new LSU OC beat Clemson. The LSU offense will be different this year. I am over the Missouri and Bama games from the past.

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They obviously made significant changes prior to the BAMA game


They may have used more of the playbook and passed the ball more but they did not make significant changes to the offense. That's what you do in the offseason not during the season.

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It's almost as if they though that would work or something.


It actually did until the 4th quarter when the refs took over on Bama's only touchdown. It's not like the LSU coaching staff wanted to lose the game.

But, to really know the answer to your question you will have to ask Coach Sharon Lewis. If anyone would know, Coach Sharon would.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62466 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:31 pm to
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until the 4th quarter when the refs took over on Bama's only touchdown.


Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:22 pm to
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until the 4th quarter when the refs took over on Bama's only touchdown.


Cool, everything I posted and that is all you respond to? Thanks, I figured everything I posted was correct.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:28 pm to
The refs did not cost LSU that game.... Lsu had a shitty game plan on offense... they could have scored on more than one occasion.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62466 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:34 pm to
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Cool, everything I posted and that is all you respond to? Thanks, I figured everything I posted was correct.


Your assertion was stupid as shite. You got the response that you deserved.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:40 pm to
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I'm not sure LSU didn't and I'm not going back to watch both games to decide.


We didn't. Where were the plays with LF and Guice in the same back field? If our pass protection as lacking what happened to moving the pocket for Etling?
We trotted out the same tired gameplan that got miles fired. The difference is I can admit its a shite game plan.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:56 pm to
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It actually did until the 4th quarter when the refs took over on Bama's only touchdown





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But, to really know the answer to your question you will have to ask Coach Sharon Lewis. If anyone would know, Coach Sharon would.


I've never seen a poster gets so butthurt over the label that LSU uses on its official website. Its like you really believe your opinion outweighs Lsu's opinion on who they put in the category of COACH. If lsu has someone under the category of COACH am I supposed to say," well actually some proven ignorant poster on TD says they aren't considered a coach" ?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:58 pm to
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We trotted out the same tired gameplan that got miles fired. The difference is I can admit its a shite game plan.


After 92 total yards, I would hope so.

What is your problem then?

LSU gained 125 yards against Bama last season and Coach O hired a new OC, RB and WR coach.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:05 pm to
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If lsu has someone under the category of COACH am I supposed to say," well actually some proven ignorant poster on TD says they aren't considered a coach" ?


So, the fact that I am embracing Sharon Lewis as a coach for the LSU football team sets you off somehow? I said I hope that another team doesn't hire her away as a head coach.

Question: Is it Doctor-coach Sam Nader or Coach-Doctor Sam Nader, would like to know how to address him the next time I run into him.

I think I will invite Coach Sharon and Doctor-Coach or Coach-Doctor to dinner. Man, the stories they will be able to tell of the player personnel packages they put in or the calls they made that won games for LSU over the years. That may turn out to be a very, very long dinner with those Ole Coaching Stalwarts reliving their past gridiron battles and how their decisions affected the outcome.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:09 pm to
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After 92 total yards, I would hope so. 

What is your problem then? 

LSU gained 125 yards against Bama last season and Coach O hired a new OC, RB and WR coach.


You can't admit last year against bama was a shite gameplan. You use the staff as an excuse against bama yet you talk about good the offense looked under O against teams there were crap.

It's something that's a staple of your stances. You apply logic to one coach and not to O because it would shite on your stance.

It would be like if in 5 years Coach O has a great win % and I got on here talking about how meaningless that win % was after years of posting miles' win %.

You do it all the time. Youre never consistent about the logic you use wheb discussing O.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:13 pm to
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So, the fact that I am embracing Sharon Lewis as a coach for the LSU football team sets you off somehow? I said I hope that another team doesn't hire her away as a head coach. 


Set me off? I'm just pointing out that you actually believe your opinion outweighs Lsu's opinion on what category they put employees under. You can call them what you want but it does make someone else dumb when they copy lsu on what category they put their employees under. If Austin Thomas OFFICIAL lsu bio lists COACH'S INFO it doesnt mean a poster that says Coach Thomas is dumb. I'm sorry that FACT hurts your vagina.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:16 pm to
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COACH INFO :
Position:Assistant Athletics Director - Football
Hometown:Many, La.
Alma Mater:Auburn
Graduating Year:1967
Email:football@lsu.edu


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Nader joined the LSU staff as a graduate assistant in 1975 and was hired by head coach Charles McClendon as a full-time assistant coach

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The longest standing member of the LSU football staff

The fact that you think your opinion outweighs Lsu's is glorious.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:20 pm to
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It actually did until the 4th quarter when the refs took over on Bama's only touchdown.


no really....

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They may have used more of the playbook and passed the ball more but they did not make significant changes to the offense.


It's only one play, but we ran a gorgeous wheel route to the TE (Desean maybe?) for a TD against Mizzou. Never saw it again the entire season. Never saw anything similar against Bama.

You've stated about 908563560 times that O and ensminger 'opened up' the offense. But then we the horrible gameplan from the Bama game is brought up, the argument then becomes "Well they couldnt overhaul the offense".
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:27 pm to
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It's only one play, but we ran a gorgeous wheel route to the TE (Desean maybe?) for a TD against Mizzou. Never saw it again the entire season. Never saw anything similar against Bama. 



What about the plays with LF and Guice in the same backfield. That's deadly. Why did our more shifty RB get 2 carries? The game plan was shite.

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've stated about 908563560 times that O and ensminger 'opened up' the offense. But then we the horrible gameplan from the Bama game is brought up, the argument then becomes "Well they couldnt overhaul the offense".


He toutes the offense as one of the reasons we should hire O and then uses it as an excuse when talking about bama.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:28 pm to
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You can't admit last year against bama was a shite gameplan


Did I ever say it was good? If I ever said it was better than anything, I said it was better that "Game A". Remember when you did a Game A vs Game B for some crazy reason. I pointed out that the Game B was actually better and the coach STILL went out and replaced the OC, RB and WR coaches. 3 of 5 offensive coaches. Unless Sharon coaches offense then it was 3 of 6.

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You use the staff as an excuse against bama yet you talk about good the offense looked under O against teams there were crap


Am I wrong??? Did they not look good/better against teams that were crap???? Have you still not noticed the changes Coach O made to LSU's offensive coaching staff? I can post the changes again if need be. Let me know.

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It's something that's a staple of your stances. You apply logic to one coach and not to O because it would shite on your stance


Could be that I don't live in the past, like over a decade ago for some posters who I will not mention, including you. I look to the future during the offseason and don't sit around crying about the past. If I did that, I would be a miserable poster like you. I don't want that. What fire/extension/promotion/hire has Coach O made that causes you remain miserable??? I'm here to help, but I have to know the problem.

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It would be like if in 5 years Coach O has a great win % and I got on here talking about how meaningless that win % was after years of posting miles' win %.


Whatever makes you happy or miserable, I guess. Not sure I understand your question or point if there is one. If your going to post CLM's win percentage for years, go for it. I have no problem at all. Like I have said in the past, I like Les Miles. Still love him but I am glad he is not the LSU coach right now.

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You do it all the time. Youre never consistent about the logic you use wheb discussing O.


Sorry it bothers you but the offense did break 3 all-time LSU offensive records, not season but ALL-TIME LSU records. It is what it is. What does Coach O do after that??? He goes out and pretty much replaces his offensive staff.

Sucks for you. Pretty soon you may not have anything to cry about. Oh, I'm sorry and forgot, you can cry about the past forever. Good luck with that, seriously !!!
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:31 pm to
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If Austin Thomas OFFICIAL lsu bio lists COACH'S INFO it doesnt mean a poster that says Coach Thomas is dumb


It does if they actually believe he is a coach on the LSU staff. He in an admin position just like Karen Lewis and Doctor Sam Nader. He was allowed to recruit because of the waiver Coach O got for Pete Jenkins but it still doesn't make him or Karen coaches. Sorry
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:32 pm to
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Sorry it bothers you but the offense did break 3 all-time LSU offensive records, not season but ALL-TIME LSU records. It is what it is. What does Coach O do after that??? He goes out and pretty much replaces his offensive staff. 


That's what happens when we run for 418 yards. I celebrated and admitted the offense looked better without miles. The difference is im not removing blame when it looks like shite against the decent teams we played.


You also act like we broke thise records by doimg something different. We ran for 418 yards against the 118th ranked run run defense. We still threw for 216 yards.

You're under some ignorant assumption that I wish miles was still the head coach. I don't and wish we wouldve fired him after 2015 season so we couldve had an actual coachimg search and not given the job to a career position coach because we had the same tyoe of outcomes that got miles fired. Win games against less talented opponents, look like shite against bama,and lose at home to a 14 point underdog that was missing tons of defensive starters.
That sounds just like a miles season.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:36 pm to
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You've stated about 908563560 times that O and ensminger 'opened up' the offense. But then we the horrible gameplan from the Bama game is brought up, the argument then becomes "Well they couldnt overhaul the offense".


Yeah, well whatever. How many of the offensive staff is still in the same position they were during last year's game?? I can understand, well actually I can't, but displaying catastrophe syndrome months after an event when changes have been made to correct the problem is weird. But, go for it. If you want to miserable about the past when changes have been made, be miserable, it's your prerogative.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:43 pm to
I asked you the other day and you dodnt answer.


Would Ed Orgeron ever be hired at Bama?
Would Ed Orgeron ever be hired at Ohio State?
Day?


Why hasnt anyone made him an offer to be a DC in 29 of his 32 years of coaching? Why has no one allowed him to Coach more than 8 games in row Since 2007? Why hasnt anyone allowed him to form a defensive game plan since 2007?
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