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re: I'm curious to see Chavis gameplan against Oregon
Posted on 5/9/11 at 8:48 pm to 7thWardTiger
Posted on 5/9/11 at 8:48 pm to 7thWardTiger
This may sound stupid, but just play your assignment and don't over aggressively bite on all the read plays. An average Tennessee team gave Tebow and Gators fits a few years back by playing conservative, gap disciplined defense.
If you just make sure Oregon doesn't hit the homerun, they will make a mistake eventually.
If you just make sure Oregon doesn't hit the homerun, they will make a mistake eventually.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 9:46 pm to dcrews
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This may sound stupid, but just play your assignment and don't over aggressively bite on all the read plays.
Not stupid at all. It's stupid that teams for get fundamentals.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 9:51 pm to dcrews
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An average Tennessee team gave Tebow and Gators fits a few years back by playing conservative, gap disciplined defense.
Not exactly. Monte Kiffin 2 gaped the defensive line and had Eric berry fillin backside on the read option playd
Posted on 5/9/11 at 10:40 pm to 7thWardTiger
Well either way, it was disciplined gap control that stifled that offense.
The spread at Oregon is all about the homerun hit, and if you keep them from hitting that homerun, it will frustrate the hell out of Chip Kelly, and they'll start to turn the ball over.
The spread at Oregon is all about the homerun hit, and if you keep them from hitting that homerun, it will frustrate the hell out of Chip Kelly, and they'll start to turn the ball over.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:35 pm to dcrews
given enough time to game plan, i take les over any coaches in the country college or pro. his record is just sick!! 
Posted on 5/10/11 at 3:51 pm to dcrews
I don't remember Oregon turning the ball over much last year. Actually, I think they ranked #7 in turnover margin last year. Don't expect Chip to get frustrated, he's one cool dude under pressure.
Not sure I understand the "home run" comment. Sure if someone doesn't tackle, they are going to the house. Who isn't. I will say they aren't afraid of 3rd and long. They don't try and manage getting first downs in the traditional sense of "if we get to 3rd and 3 we're golden cause we can two tight end it for a first down." type of offense. They are every bit as likely to run a reverse on 3rd and 3 as they are on 3rd and 10.
Not sure I understand the "home run" comment. Sure if someone doesn't tackle, they are going to the house. Who isn't. I will say they aren't afraid of 3rd and long. They don't try and manage getting first downs in the traditional sense of "if we get to 3rd and 3 we're golden cause we can two tight end it for a first down." type of offense. They are every bit as likely to run a reverse on 3rd and 3 as they are on 3rd and 10.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 3:58 pm to GoDucks349
I'm curious too
The good news for y'all is LSU should be the best defense y'all face in the regular season. You probably won't see a defense like that the rest of the season. Maybe SC will have improved but we'll see.
The good news for y'all is LSU should be the best defense y'all face in the regular season. You probably won't see a defense like that the rest of the season. Maybe SC will have improved but we'll see.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 4:13 pm to Rocket
Actually, I think Washington and AZ will be the toughest defensive tests after LSU, maybe Cal. Both road games both improving hard nosed defenses.
USC at Autzen will have to be better than they have been, we put 53 on them last year and 47 the year before that. They need to improve to stay with the Ducks.
Cal was tough defensively last year, just no consistant offense. They only gave up 20 or more points three times last year. They had losses of 10-9, 15-13 and 16-13
USC at Autzen will have to be better than they have been, we put 53 on them last year and 47 the year before that. They need to improve to stay with the Ducks.
Cal was tough defensively last year, just no consistant offense. They only gave up 20 or more points three times last year. They had losses of 10-9, 15-13 and 16-13
Posted on 5/10/11 at 4:36 pm to GoDucks349
On paper, Oregon shouldn't be on the same field as LSU. LSU doesn't need to be aggressive versus Oregon, because Oregon can't out run LSU.
Oregon's offense always went with the same plan last year. Run quick options and misdirection runs/draws first. The tempo caused many defense coordinators to over-react by making them think they needed to jump routes and essentially be to aggressive in hopes for a big play. Oregon's offense failed hardcore two of their last three games from one simple adjustment. No matter how fast that qb goes and snaps the ball, stay in base defense so they have to keep nickel and diming you. When defenses stayed confident and didn't try to jump the gun in order to create plays, oregon didn't get those 50 yard plays that resulted in their super fast scoring times. LSU's defense has more speed and more future NFL draft picks on it than any defense Oregon has faced since the year USC beat Penn State in the Rose Bowl.
For those of you too lazy to read: Darron Thomas is not good enough to pass the ball when the defense is not jumping the gun on runs. (Look at his two big passes against Auburn, play action and a auburn defender got put on the ground by the official on the other one). LSU doesn't need to blitz to stop Oregon's run.
If LSU establishes the running game early in this game with Ware, Oregon's going to get blown out. Taking doses of Ware, Blue, Ford, Gore? up the middle for 7 minutes, just to have your offense snap the ball once every 14 seconds on a three and out equals less than a 3 minute break for your defense, before they get another 7 minutes of running.
If you ignore the media hype and just look at the facts, this shouldn't be a game. I will say that Chip Kelley is a good coach, and if he wins, then it will be on him because man for man, Oregon's personnel doesn't match up.
SC's defense got burnt on play action and fake bubble's last year, not the run.
Oregon's offense always went with the same plan last year. Run quick options and misdirection runs/draws first. The tempo caused many defense coordinators to over-react by making them think they needed to jump routes and essentially be to aggressive in hopes for a big play. Oregon's offense failed hardcore two of their last three games from one simple adjustment. No matter how fast that qb goes and snaps the ball, stay in base defense so they have to keep nickel and diming you. When defenses stayed confident and didn't try to jump the gun in order to create plays, oregon didn't get those 50 yard plays that resulted in their super fast scoring times. LSU's defense has more speed and more future NFL draft picks on it than any defense Oregon has faced since the year USC beat Penn State in the Rose Bowl.
For those of you too lazy to read: Darron Thomas is not good enough to pass the ball when the defense is not jumping the gun on runs. (Look at his two big passes against Auburn, play action and a auburn defender got put on the ground by the official on the other one). LSU doesn't need to blitz to stop Oregon's run.
If LSU establishes the running game early in this game with Ware, Oregon's going to get blown out. Taking doses of Ware, Blue, Ford, Gore? up the middle for 7 minutes, just to have your offense snap the ball once every 14 seconds on a three and out equals less than a 3 minute break for your defense, before they get another 7 minutes of running.
If you ignore the media hype and just look at the facts, this shouldn't be a game. I will say that Chip Kelley is a good coach, and if he wins, then it will be on him because man for man, Oregon's personnel doesn't match up.
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Not exactly. Monte Kiffin 2 gaped the defensive line and had Eric berry fillin backside on the read option playd
SC's defense got burnt on play action and fake bubble's last year, not the run.
This post was edited on 5/10/11 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 5/10/11 at 5:19 pm to EricB
EricB - you have Oregon figured out. That is funny that Darron Thomas can't throw the ball. I bet you'd trade him for JJ.
Oh, wait, he had a 10-18 performance in the Cotton Bowl. You shouldn't saying anyting about on paper. What is your pass offense ranked again? shite, on paper - you can wipe your arse with that.
Oregon had 311 rushing yards on SC. Ask them if they got burnt by the run.
Oregon had 311 rushing yards on SC. Ask them if they got burnt by the run.
This post was edited on 5/10/11 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:38 pm to 7thWardTiger
I'm extremely curious bc of our problem with running QBs last year. He'll have over 6 months to prepare. Having speed on the ends will help a lot along with Montgomery coming back.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 12:32 am to bisonduck
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Oh, wait, he had a 10-18 performance in the Cotton Bowl. You shouldn't saying anyting about on paper. What is your pass offense ranked again? shite, on paper - you can wipe your arse with that.
If Oregon was in the SEC, they wouldn't have made it to the Cotton Bowl. The chances of you playing Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Miss State, and SC and being only a two loss team are incredibly low. You think I might be stretching with SC and Miss State, but the way you played against CAL would have surely resulted in a loss against either of these teams. Even your bowl appearance versus Auburn misrepresents what it's like to be in the SEC, because you were able to take at least 8 weeks 'off' during your regular season and stay healthy and motivated.
Run your mouth all you want, it took a miracle (or do refs throw pick blocks all the time in the pac 10?) for you to put up more than 11 points on Auburn. LSU's 'terrible' offense put up more points than you did and had the disadvantage of coming off a hard game and knowing another hard game awaited the week after.
As far as paper goes. Yes. Check any recruiting website you want. You're replacing that many starters with absolute no-body's and coming to play LSU who is returning 17 of 22 starters, and even more "players that rotated in" than you are (we call them back ups).
I bet the opening line on this game doesn't favor Oregon, despite the media ranking of 4.
This post was edited on 5/11/11 at 12:35 am
Posted on 5/11/11 at 11:58 am to EricB
Eric B, you are the one running your mouth. We rotated 25 guys not 22. Our nobodies that you are referring to are actually highly sought after recruits. Look up Ricky Heimuli (replacing Zac Clark), Dion Jordan (replacing kenny Rowe), Taylor Hart (replacing Brandon Bair), Michael Clay (replacing Matthews), Boseko Lokombo (will play SAM will Kaddu slides into WIL for Payinger), Cliff Harris (starter replacing Jackson), Karrington Armstrong (replacing Holmes), Nick Cody (replacing Kaiser) and Darriom Weems (replacing Thran), and tell me there isn't a significant upgrade in talent.
Likewise, you pluck one game out of a schedule vs. Cal to say that is a loss in the SEC. Btw, look at Cal's collection of talent especially on the defensive side of the ball. They run a very good 3-4 that matches perfectly against our scheme and most of their guys on that side of the ball are NFL caliber. Context buddy and you don't have it.
You are the one running your mouth. You can blame the close game against Auburn on a pick screen by the ref but that is lame. LSU gave up 440 yards on the ground. You have no right to talk. Even Auburn fans are giving Oregon more credit.
Likewise, you pluck one game out of a schedule vs. Cal to say that is a loss in the SEC. Btw, look at Cal's collection of talent especially on the defensive side of the ball. They run a very good 3-4 that matches perfectly against our scheme and most of their guys on that side of the ball are NFL caliber. Context buddy and you don't have it.
You are the one running your mouth. You can blame the close game against Auburn on a pick screen by the ref but that is lame. LSU gave up 440 yards on the ground. You have no right to talk. Even Auburn fans are giving Oregon more credit.
This post was edited on 5/11/11 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:39 pm to 7thWardTiger
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I'm scared to see Chavis gameplan against Oregon
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:06 pm to dcrews
Ive said this before but it really is going to be Chavis vs D thomas....D thomas is what is going to make or break oregon, yeah obviously but my opinion he is going to try and do to much against Chavis and our secondary...As much as people want to believe it he is still a little bitter about decommiting from us and the way it was done.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:14 pm to EricB
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SC's defense got burnt on play action and fake bubble's last year, not the run.
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Not exactly. Monte Kiffin 2 gaped the defensive line and had Eric berry fillin backside on the read option playd
I think you guys misunderstood my quote. I was talkong about how Monte defended Tebow at UF. USC didnt have the horses to run with Oregon last year
Posted on 5/12/11 at 6:53 am to 7thWardTiger
I know the BCS title game is fresh in everyone's minds and every LSU fan likes to beckon back to it, however, UO-LSU did play another common opponent, Tenn. UO beat them worse then any team in Neyland Stadium history. LSU- was declared the looser for a full 2 mins until the umps reversed the last play and said too many men on the field for Tenn- and LSU caught a super lucky break. (which was the right call btw). I remember seeing LSU fans screaming for Miles head right after it looked like Tenn won. Anyways, LSU did win, but it was as squeaky a win can be. UO smashed that same Tenn team IN THERE HOUSE, most lopsided defeat EVER for Tenn. Tenn played in YOUR house. Kind of funny how you only brought up AU-UO game(even though we played AU better then you) but fail to remember the other common team we played last year. LSU is good in my view, and I much respect them. But best D we will see all year? You guys smoke crack down there? UO had a better D then LSU last year, and it looks like UO's D will be even better this year. Hint- UO's O has to go up against UO's D every single day in practice. Our D was the best in the PAC last year, (which was better then yours) and looks to even be better this year. And then Stanford. The Furd has a awesome D. And ASU's D is supposed to be lights out this year. I think their MLB L.Burfict is hands down the best D player in the country. He is dirty, and probably possessed but still is the best D player in this country.(watch him on U-Tube) When will come the day that the South does not only think all good football is only played in their region? Maybe you should get out some, or watch some other regions. And btw, our QB D.Thomas is still ticked at you. You told him when he committed for you that you wanted him as QB, then you changed your minds and told him he would only be a athlete. He only wanted to play QB. He made UO promise to only use him for a QB, and we love the kid! If you had half of what he has, you would of went to the BCS game last year against us with him. And I expect him to tear y'all up! Your D better be doing wind sprints night and day right now cause DT is coming for you!
Posted on 5/12/11 at 7:45 am to DucksflyinPAC
Mathieu says hi. You should watch his highlight video from last year. (wish I had the link)
Posted on 5/12/11 at 9:32 am to 7thWardTiger
Florida didn't seem to have much fire power that year if I remember right. Which made montes job easier. SC still has quality athletes. I think it was more about Oregon making sure SC knew who was taking over. Oregon's handled their business at home against SC lately ( both Oregon schools have) they just needed to whip their butt on the road. Will be more of the same this year too.
Posted on 5/12/11 at 9:37 am to DFWLSUTX
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ve said this before but it really is going to be Chavis vs D thomas....D thomas is what is going to make or break oregon, yeah obviously but my opinion he is going to try and do to much against Chavis and our secondary...As much as people want to believe it he is still a little bitter about decommiting from us and the way it was done. Message B
Have seen you say this several times. He's over it man.....
This post was edited on 5/12/11 at 11:21 am
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