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re: If You Are Not Happy With Miles' Career Results So Far
Posted on 10/10/12 at 11:19 am to BRTIIGER58
Posted on 10/10/12 at 11:19 am to BRTIIGER58
Your post lacks insight. Just looking at someones career results is like looking at a shiny car that won the Daytona 500 and not being concerned with its condition.
Miles has done a good job. He has lots of room for improvement. He needs 2 extremely good coordinators to be very successful. We need to continue to examine our goals, teams, coaches--college football is and always will be fluid. It is starting to catch up with the NFL, in that the passing game is overshadowing the run.
LSU needs fans but they could do without You and Me.
Miles has done a good job. He has lots of room for improvement. He needs 2 extremely good coordinators to be very successful. We need to continue to examine our goals, teams, coaches--college football is and always will be fluid. It is starting to catch up with the NFL, in that the passing game is overshadowing the run.
LSU needs fans but they could do without You and Me.
This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 11:58 am
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Posted on 10/10/12 at 11:53 am to BRTIIGER58
I'm happy with his career results at LSU thus far. What I'm not happy with is his offensive production going forward. A bell should have went off after 1/9 and it didn't. I'm a Miles supporter FWIW, but I don't even know what to think now.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:07 pm to brownjuco
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did you go to LSU?
Yes and I graduated? You?
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:18 pm to dljtigers
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Your post lacks insight. Just looking at someones career results is like looking at a shiny car that won the Daytona 500 and not being concerned with its condition.
Your response lacks common sense. Results are what matter in major college football. If Miles continues producing the same results in regards to championships and won/loss record then we would be a fool to want him gone. Problems that need solving will always crop up. People get panicky because Miles seems sometimes slow to rectify situations that are not working. Despite his flaws you cannot deny he continues to produce very acceptable results. You are just a bit naive in the ways of big time athletics in regards to what is an acceptable job performance by a head coach.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:22 pm to BRTIIGER58
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You will never be happy with his replacement.
Depends on his performance actually.
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You are a person who will always be complaining about one thing or another.
Umm nope "always the glass half full" guy, love everyone until ...guy, can find a bright side to even the bad shite.
I'm not dissatisfied with Miles' career results just his prep for a game,in-game coaching ability, and inability to be flexible, make adjustments at the half and the possible damage to future recruitng because of it.
Yes, Miles has won a truck load of games. He's done it because he's had more and better talent and not coaching. I simply think with a better Xs and Os coach the Tigers have at least 1 more crystal ball and possibly2.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:25 pm to BRTIIGER58
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Your response lacks common sense. Results are what matter in major college football. If Miles continues producing the same results in regards to championships and won/loss record then we would be a fool to want him gone. Problems that need solving will always crop up. People get panicky because Miles seems sometimes slow to rectify situations that are not working. Despite his flaws you cannot deny he continues to produce very acceptable results. You are just a bit naive in the ways of big time athletics in regards to what is an acceptable job performance by a head coach.
I agree with your statement and fans in general are never happy unless their team wins every game.
HOWEVER, this situation is just a teeny weeny bit different.
Miles has been living on the edge of a cliff for some time now. When you do things that don't make sense you tend to have a shorter rope. He won last year and that kept away most of the haters. It doesn't say much about the fans OR MILES that after one loss we're ready to run him out of town.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:34 pm to chalupa
All you posters worrying about offense rather than wins and losses, go cheer for WVU. PLEASE.
Had a poster tell me it's not about winning. It's how you do it. Ignorant.
Had a poster tell me it's not about winning. It's how you do it. Ignorant.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:36 pm to BRTIIGER58
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LSU doesn't need you or want you.
Bold statement. Should I send my fandom application to you?
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:37 pm to brownjuco
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Miles has been living on the edge of a cliff for some time now. When you do things that don't make sense you tend to have a shorter rope. He won last year and that kept away most of the haters. It doesn't say much about the fans OR MILES that after one loss we're ready to run him out of town.
What? Miles just gave LSU it's greatest SEC season EVER. WE CURB STOMPED THE SEC, PAC 12 champ and big east champ. Get a clue
ETA: running Miles out of town says nothing about Miles. Nothing. It says our ignorant entitled fan base needs to shut the frick up and respect the WINNINGEST COACH IN LSU HISTORY. we've lost 8 starters from the spring game. That's damn near an entire side of the ball.
This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:41 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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All you posters worrying about offense rather than wins and losses, go cheer for WVU. PLEASE.
Had a poster tell me it's not about winning. It's how you do it. Ignorant.
You are absolutely right Rickdaddy. But in today's world you have to have the recruits to win. Top offensive recruits are not going to want to go to a school where they don't get to showcase their talent. So while an ugly win is indeed a win too many can cost you that 5 star kid.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:43 pm to Tiger inTampa
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You are absolutely right Rickdaddy. But in today's world you have to have the recruits to win. Top offensive recruits are not going to want to go to a school where they don't get to showcase their talent. So while an ugly win is indeed a win too many can cost you that 5 star kid.
ETA: it's common knowledge that if the players execute, any play can be successful. Posters put drops and stuff you are taught in middle school , on the coaches , is dumb and inaccurate. I guess they think D1 coaches practice securing the ball after a catch. These players are one step away from the NFL , in the NFL , you are supposed to be technique sound already.
Except LSU has been winning ugly for years an we continue to get top 5-10 classes. Look I'm all for upgrading OC , but the fans calling out Miles needs to realize that our offense was fine until we lost Faulk ( the guy we've ran behind for two years).
This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:47 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I will not lie, Les will always continue to recruit well. He lands blue chippers frequently, and seems to find quality players that are otherwise overlooked by other top notch programs. But utilizing this talent effectively could become an issue. Its great to have such an outstanding record albeit an ugly one, but eventually some of these "ugly" wins could easily turn in to 4th quarter losses. Hell of a risk to take, and I think the whole staff is to blame, including Les, but not Chief....
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:50 pm to mainetiger
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You are absolutely right Rickdaddy. But in today's world you have to have the recruits to win. Top offensive recruits are not going to want to go to a school where they don't get to showcase their talent. So while an ugly win is indeed a win too many can cost you that 5 star kid.
It's only become an issue since losing 3 lineman and our best rb. Before losing Faulk , our offense was fine. Also last year out offense was great outside of playing against two top 5 defenses in UGA and Bama. People using Jan.9th as a way to tell that our offense sucks , is being dumb. That defense will go down as one of , if not the , greatest defense in CFb. Far better offenses than LSU would've been shut down that day.
This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:51 pm to Tiger inTampa
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I simply think with a better Xs and Os coach the Tigers have at least 1 more crystal ball and possibly2
So you find a guy that is a better Xs and Os coach. Now this guy also has to be great at recruiting, this guy has to be great at player development, this guy has to be great at graduating players, this guy has to be great at motivation and developing team chemistry, this guy has to be great at keeping guys from off the field troubles, this guy has to have his personal life in order, etc, etc, etc.
If this guy lacks in ANY one of these areas you open the door for problems on the team and for those critics who masquerade as fans to become dissatisfied and scream for a new coach. If you believe otherwise then you have not followed LSU athletics very long.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:53 pm to mainetiger
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I will not lie, Les will always continue to recruit well. He lands blue chippers frequently, and seems to find quality players that are otherwise overlooked by other top notch programs. But utilizing this talent effectively could become an issue. Its great to have such an outstanding record albeit an ugly one, but eventually some of these "ugly" wins could easily turn in to 4th quarter losses. Hell of a risk to take, and I think the whole staff is to blame, including Les, but not Chief....
Come on man. We aren't gonna be great every single year. No team is. Look at Saban in 2010. He had the entire 2011 defense , plus a first rd de ( Darius), first rd wr ( Julio) , first rd rb( Ingram) and a senior qb( whom ha already won a title) and BAMA LOST 3 games.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:55 pm to mainetiger
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Les will always continue to recruit well
With the utmost sincerity I hope you are right. However, depending on which service or media outlet you go by the '12 Tiger signing class was ranked at best 10 and as low as 15 with some notable "losses".
Just saying things are different for these kids these days. Hard to sell them on 3 yards in a cloud of dust and a 4 -8 yard out route.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:06 pm to Tiger inTampa
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However, depending on which service or media outlet you go by the '12 Tiger signing class was ranked at best 10 and as low as 15 with some notable "losses".
Recruiting services....Jacob Hestor, Mo Claiborne, Tyrann Mathieu, etc, etc, etc.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:06 pm to BRTIIGER58
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Mile's
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:12 pm to GhostBuster6
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GhostBuster6
Alabama Fan
Thanks for playing grammar nazi.
Oh and by the way...
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:16 pm to BRTIIGER58
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Recruiting services....Jacob Hestor, Mo Claiborne, Tyrann Mathieu, etc, etc, etc.
Understood. However, there are a lot of teams that find outstanding players who haven't matured or who have just been overlooked. The big time talent is the generally the back bone though. While I'm not overly enamored with the Class rankings I do believe they are a good indicator for down the road.
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