re: If we had this year's JJ during last year

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He threw a pick six right off the bat against GA, then again when we were getting somewhat close near the end, and threw a pick six against Bama when we had the lead.

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Then he tied it at 7-7, but Ga reeled off 2 straight TDs without an int. JLee played from behind the rest of the game.

And its easy to forget that Bama drove right down on the very 1st possession to the goal line, and Chad saved the TD with a fumble out of the end zone, and then Byrd tips the ball 3 times before the int. that gave Bama the lead And Bama drives down on our D the last drive, but only a blocked FG forces it into OT.

JLee had little D support. the Bama game is really the only game that the D played decent for him. But not even this years JJ wins the Troy game. So its a wash.

The very first play of the game was a pick six against GA. Don't you think everybody on the team and everyone in the stands said "shite, when will this stop?" In the Bama game, there was no interception that put Bama ahead, just the one that tied it up after we had stopped them four straight times after we took the lead. I really don't see why so many feel the need to try to defend JL, it just was what it was. Clearly his play was a big part of the losses, because no one in history ever came close to throwing that many pick sixes in a season, much less a career. He had the misfortune to be thrown into that situation before he was ready and that really sucked for him and us. I agree the defense sucked, but I still think they were affected by the offense constantly giving up points more than he was affected by the defense sucking.

I think poor play, namely giving up points while on offense, has a much greater effect, negatively on a defense, than good play by the offense can have a positive effect on the defense. It's just the nature of the beast because it is so emotional. Although, if an offense has very big scoring plays, which UW did not have, that could fire up a defense, kinda like our defense played better after we had some big scoring plays.

Would have been a little better, but not 14-0.

I think 8-5 actually. JJ isn't going to change Ole Miss, Ark, UF, or UGA. I think we probably lose to Auburn, but beat Bama.

FWIW, I'd be more likely to say 7-6 than 9-4 too.

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We fell behind AUB. becuase of a pick six by JL.

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And then won because of a JL TD. Do you think a barely 18 year old JJ would do that much better?

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we fell behind GA because of a pick six jl was not under presure!

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And tied the game up after a JL TD pass to Byrd the very next drive. We couldn't stop anyone, so unless JJ was going to put a headset on and call the defensive plays, we lose that game too.

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we lost to ala because of 4 ints..

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I said we win that game.

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Fla. may have been much closer.

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10-2

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You're a fool.

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JLee threw picks because he was forced to throw.

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explain his pick six on the opening drive of the UGA game.....ill wait...