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re: I Would Rather Live/Die With Lee Than Go Through Another Jefferson Season
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:28 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:28 pm to Navytiger74
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His best games trump Lee's best games, and he has many more good games than Lee does.
Not even remotely close to true. In his allegedly miserable season in 2008, Jarrett Lee threw for more TDs against Auburn, MSU, and UF than Jefferson did in the entire regular season last year. I know you were sucked off in this thread for your post, but that statement is delusional.
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Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:31 pm to acgeaux129
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Not even remotely close to true.
Don't make me post Lee's stats when LSU was within 15 points of the opponent.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:32 pm to acgeaux129
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Not even remotely close to true. In his allegedly miserable season in 2008, Jarrett Lee threw for more TDs against Auburn, MSU, and UF than Jefferson did in the entire regular season last year.
Jefferson played in 09 as well, and posted decent stats in several games. This year, he played decently against UNC, Alabama, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and A&M.
But since you're so confident, line up Lee's best games against JJs, and that'll settle it once and for all.
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I know you were sucked off in this thread
No.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:32 pm to Brett425
Jefferson wouuld still be the better option even coach miles know this people. Lee is starting because Jefferson is suspended not because of experience.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:33 pm to Antonio Moss
I know one thing, no one will be more nervous than Jl come Sat ngiht and rightly so. I wish the guy all the sucess in the world, i know one other thing he will give 110 % no matter what. I hope all of our Tigers come out and play like we all know they can. Stay healthy and play smart and we will come home ranked number 1 in the nation next week. 
This post was edited on 9/2/11 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:34 pm to Navytiger74
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Lee's best games
Lee's best game to date is 2010 Florida.
His best statistical game is 2008 Georgia, but it is a huge red herring.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:36 pm to Antonio Moss
I'm not sure which "side" you are on, but go ahead, because I'd be interested in seeing what you have.
I am reasonable enough to be on the same page as the Navy guy, but don't say Jefferson was leaps and bounds ahead of Lee. That's just idiotic. Statistically, Jefferson was one of the worst starting QBs in the country last year.
I actually just went back and looked over his stats, and Lee went 67% and threw for 261 yards against Miss. St. in 2008. Almost postivie Jefferson has never come close to that.
ETA Correction: He did against Ole Miss in 2010, but he didn't surpass that number.
I am reasonable enough to be on the same page as the Navy guy, but don't say Jefferson was leaps and bounds ahead of Lee. That's just idiotic. Statistically, Jefferson was one of the worst starting QBs in the country last year.
I actually just went back and looked over his stats, and Lee went 67% and threw for 261 yards against Miss. St. in 2008. Almost postivie Jefferson has never come close to that.
ETA Correction: He did against Ole Miss in 2010, but he didn't surpass that number.
This post was edited on 9/2/11 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:36 pm to Antonio Moss
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Lee's best game to date is 2010 Florida.
His best statistical game is 2008 Georgia, but it is a huge red herring.
I guess JJ's would be Auburn 09', Ole Miss 10', and A&M 10'.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:42 pm to acgeaux129
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Jefferson was leaps and bounds ahead of Lee.
I don't think anyone here has ever argued that. It's the Lee people who have mounted a sustained campaign to get him to start as though he's light-years ahead of Jefferson.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:43 pm to acgeaux129
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I'm not sure which "side" you are on
I'm not on a side. I just get fed up with all the misinformation on here.
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I actually just went back and looked over his stats, and Lee went 67% and threw for 261 yards against Miss. St. in 2008. Almost postivie Jefferson has never come close to that.
299 total yards, 76.5% completion percentage, 2 TDs versus Ole Miss (2010)
225 total yards, 59% completion percentage, 4 TDs versus Texas A&M (2010)
212 total yards, 68% completion percentage, 2 TDs versus Arkansas (2009)
268 total yards, 67% completion percentage, 3 TDs versus Auburn (2009)
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:43 pm to Navytiger74
You said he's had a lot more good games than Lee. That's just not true at all, and absolutely unfair anyway, since Jefferson has started more games.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:44 pm to Navytiger74
NO, Its just that all the people with their head up JJ @#$ think he is just that great and the entire rest of the tiger nation was looking for someone else that at least wouldn't continue to go 3 and out.
at least from my side and perspective, Lee wasn't the best thing but anything at times would have been better than a QB that just didn't have the game in his head and made terrible decisions with the FB
at least from my side and perspective, Lee wasn't the best thing but anything at times would have been better than a QB that just didn't have the game in his head and made terrible decisions with the FB
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:45 pm to acgeaux129
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You said he's had a lot more good games than Lee. That's just not true at all
We've been over this already on the last page.
I broke it down by 150 yard games and 200 yard games compared to snaps taken.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:46 pm to Antonio Moss
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total yards
I edited/corrected myself for the Ole Miss game, but don't pull that "total yards" business on here.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:47 pm to acgeaux129
That shootout with Georgia is about as much fun as you can have in a loss Haha. Gos what a terrible season. Such high hopes after our win in Auburn that season.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:48 pm to acgeaux129
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I edited/corrected myself for the Ole Miss game, but don't pull that "total yards" business on here.
The running matters. Running QBs have been great assets to their teams in college.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:48 pm to slackster
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Alot of people talk about the wins and how that is all that matters, but yet we criticize the individual players all the time. LSU wins and loses games. I do not blame any wins/losses on JJ or JL as individuals.
Some teams are more fun the watch even if they lose a few games. It is possible for an 8-5 team to have been more enjoyable to watch than a team that went 11-2. We won the Tennessee game last year, but it was not fun to watch at all. I think the point the OP is trying to make is that regardless of wins and losses, 2011 with JL will be more enjoyable to watch than 2009 or 2010 were with JJ.
You rather it be fun to watch than win? I'd rather sit through boring games and win the NC than lose 5 games and it be a passfest.
Listen, I'm not over emphasizing the win/loss deal and I'm not criticizing Lee or JJ at this time. I'm just saying that I'll take hard-fought wins over pretty losses any day.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:49 pm to acgeaux129
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but don't pull that "total yards" business on here.
Why?
Does a yard running not count the same as a yard passing?
That's simply foolish.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:50 pm to acgeaux129
quote:There are rules in football. These rules are important. Every team must follow the rules.
Not even remotely close to true. In his allegedly miserable season in 2008, Jarrett Lee threw for more TDs against Auburn, MSU, and UF than Jefferson did in the entire regular season last year. I know you were sucked off in this thread for your post, but that statement is delusional.
The rules in football allow the QB to run the ball. The rules allow the QB to run the ball into the endzone. The rules do not prohibit the QB from scoring solely by throwing a pass.
I know that knowledge of the rules seems to be a prerequisite to make intelligent posts. However, it seems many posters don't have even a fundamental knowledge of the game.
ETA - LSU scores six points when Jefferson runs for a touchdown. LSU does not score more than six points when a QB throws a pass for a touchdown.
EATA - Jefferson was the #2 QB in 2009 in redzone efficiency. It helps LSU to have a QB who can run into the endzone for a touchdown.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 12:50 pm to Navytiger74
JJ is a pretty lousy example of a running QB in college. His elusiveness helps, and he's good at making throws rolling out the pocket, and I won't discount that. He is pretty horrible in running the option though.
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