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re: I would normally just blame the defense for last night
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:33 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:33 pm to Jim Rockford
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220 yards total offense and 7 offensive points.
I'm specifically talking about the time of possession gap. it's kinda hard to do anything with the ball if the defense is giving up 1st downs, which included a 10 play TD drive. and then you give the ball right back on the kickoff.
we were sluggish coming out, in ALL phases. it was to be expected to an extent given the previous week's game. but I don't think it was because JJ started, it was just a combo of odd things happening (offensive playcalling, defense not getting off the field, the fumbled kickoff).
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:34 pm to Tiger Authority
I'm happy with the win. This is the type game in past years and past coaches where we would have lost or struggled to eke out a victory. The outcome was never in doubt. A letdown after Bama was wholly predictable and we still won going away. We won't play like this against OM, much less Arkansas. Anybody still bitching about last night just wants bitch about something or has an agenda.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:34 pm to Corn Dawg Nation
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you didn't understand his post bra... That is JJ's fault too.....
Good lord. I've been as positive about JJ as anyone on this damn board for two years now and I post one criticism and these fricking idiots come out of the woods to make stupid statements.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:34 pm to Tiger Authority
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Can you explain this to me. It's the only game all year that I was just shaking my head asking "wtf happened all of a sudden?"
Not playing to JJ's strengths. There was ny rhythm, no continuity. Instead of trying to construct drives, which is what LSU has done all year, the staff was looking for the spectacular.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
It looked like a typical game from last year.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:36 pm to Tiger Authority
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The playcalling was awful last night as well. I think we ran more option with Lee during his one series than JJ had the entire game. So basically, we completely attempted to reverse their roles in game 10? This is just frustrating that we're dealing with this right now.
The playcalling was awful because it was modified to suit Jefferson's so-called "skill set" which Miles apparently values more than anything Lee has done to this point.
We are not a threat to throw the ball when JJ is on the game, plain and simple. The offense sputters and the players just look lost out there.
LSU will not beat Arkansas if Jefferson gets more than 50% of the snaps. The offense will bog down time and time again and the resulting 3-and-outs will keep Arkansas in the game.
I want to trust Miles but this is maddening. He went on and on about Lee getting his confidence back, and then he pulls the rug right out from under him.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Not playing to JJ's strengths. There was ny rhythm, no continuity. Instead of trying to construct drives, which is what LSU has done all year, the staff was looking for the spectacular.
We've called plays very effectively for JJ up to this point. I'll have to rewatch the game but like I said, I think Lee ran more option than JJ last night. The one play I remember running the read option with JJ was Blue's touchdown.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:37 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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We are not a threat to throw the ball when JJ is on the game, plain and simple.
8-14, 168 yards, a TD and no interceptions.
This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:37 pm to Tiger Authority
Isn't that what you were implying????
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:38 pm to Corn Dawg Nation
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Isn't that what you were implying????
Not even remotely.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:38 pm to Tiger Authority
You know your going to win, why not try out some new stuff or let JJ throw it around a bit.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:39 pm to Tiger Authority
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JJ didn't have a bad first half, but it just seemed like something was missing
lacked an identity, the overall rhythm wasnt the same...to me anyway.
JJ played pretty well, I think some watched the game and felt like I did, while others liked the offense
(Cotton Bowl kind of gameplan).
That said, its not all on the offense...first game all year the D came out flat and it had a trickle down effect.
Also, Im sure Miles was kind of testing JJ a bit to see how he'd do with his reads, and accuracy on the PA & deep ball.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:39 pm to Tiger Authority
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We've called plays very effectively for JJ up to this point.
I agree, and he looked decent in the scheme.
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I'll have to rewatch the game but like I said, I think Lee ran more option than JJ last night. The one play I remember running the read option with JJ was Blue's touchdown.
It was the old "Lets make JJ a pocket passing QB" scheme we have seen the last several years. He is what he is, and has strengths. The staff isn't going to change that with 3-4 games left in his career. Not JJ's fault btw, totally on the staff.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:39 pm to Tiger Authority
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I give JJ full credit for allowing us to beat Bama. We don't beat Bama the last two years without JJ.
debateable...
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Lee has brought us to this point, and we're a better overall team against every other team outside of Alabama when Lee is the starter.
Ill buy this...I agree that an athletic QB gives Bama Problems, but Id rather have RShep back their at QB instead of JJ...
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:40 pm to GeauxPack81
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You know your going to win, why not try out some new stuff or let JJ throw it around a bit.
But we ran the ball 40 times last night, more than double our passes.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:40 pm to TigerFan55555
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debateable...
Don't be silly. If lee played that whole bama game last week, there is zero shot of winning the game. Give credit where it is due.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:41 pm to TigerFan55555
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debateable
Not really.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:42 pm to Tiger Authority
You make some valid points TigerAuthority. 
Hopefully things get back to normal now that the BIG game and the BIG Letdown games are out of the way. We will have to because we all know that Nutt and Ole Miss are going to play way above their heads this Saturday and then we are all aware of Arkansas being a thorn in our sides over the years.
Hopefully things get back to normal now that the BIG game and the BIG Letdown games are out of the way. We will have to because we all know that Nutt and Ole Miss are going to play way above their heads this Saturday and then we are all aware of Arkansas being a thorn in our sides over the years. Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:43 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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The playcalling was awful because it was modified to suit Jefferson's so-called "skill set" which Miles apparently values more than anything Lee has done to this point.
What game did you watch? JJ's playcalls were Lee's normal calls and Lee's were mostly JJ's. Thats why it looked awkward. I think JJ only ran a few times and it was on scrambles not designed plays.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Not playing to JJ's strengths.
the passes called actually played to his strengths. the coaches figured out late last yr that he threw the ball better on early downs and/ or play action. ESPN had a stat on it before the season and his rating was actually really high on early downs down the stretch - and it was a pretty decent sample size.
Krag and Stud both alluded to wanting to put him in those types of passing situations before the season, I think this is just the first time they felt they could get him in and try it.
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