re: I think those that want Orgeron gone..

Didn’t Ed prove he was replaceable when we turned into Vanderbilt as soon as our coordinators left?

Oh yes, yes he did.

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Have likely never led anything themselves...

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Hahaha I think it's just the opposite.

Imagine hiring a guy for your business and this was argument to hire/retain him:

"Ed is a great manager... as long as his assistant managers do a great job of doing all of his work."

O is a salesman in a well run company.. Not THE leader of a well run company. By well run, I mean consistently improving. Not high peaks and low valleys. Share holders hate companies that are unpredictable.

100% agree with everything you said in your post. The idiots that want him fired have no idea what they're talking about. We lost way too much top notch talent that has had to be replaced by super young and inexperienced players that have alot of talent, but are too young to be competing for titles this season.

It isn't just regarding lsu football this season either. If you have this kind of situation occur at any level of any sport, you will have similar results. Players take time to develop and mature in order to get acclimated to the difference in speed and competition in a step up to the next level of their sport, at this level of ball especially, and it's just insane for anyone to expect this young group of players to automatically be contending for anything of significance this season. It's like some of our fans but completely forgot how much talent we lost off of the greatest team in cfb history this off-season. Then, we have had critical opt-outs before and during the season as well. People need to be realistic and understand exactly where we are as a program right now. We are gaining much needed experience this season and will have an experienced and talented team for years to come bc of this season. I'm glad this happened to us during this joke of a year honestly, bc it had to happen regardless. We have massive amounts of talent on our team and are signing alot more this recruiting class. The future of lsu football is very bright and you can't gauge a coach or a program based on a season with the circumstances we have to face this year. Geaux Fightin' Tigers.

Ok. Your point is? It took nine years to accomplish that, lol. That's a long fricking time. O had stockpiled talent and is continuing to do that as we speak. We are just extremely young on a unprecedented level. You name me one program that has had to experience the kind of youth and inexperienced that lsu has had to compete with this season and let me know. It hasn't happened. Now, combine that with a new scheme on defense and players that have not only never competed at this level, but have never competed together with each other as a team...and this is the result you get. It's not going to be this way next season I promise. We are gaining much needed and necessary experience this year that will benefit us in the near future. We have the talent, that's not even a debate. We are in the process of developing and maturing that talent right now and that takes time and bumps along the way. If anyone can't understand that, then they've obviously never played serious competitive ball of any kind in their life. If you've played sports, compare how you were as a freshman and how behind you were in comparison to the older, more experienced and more mature upperclassmen that you had to play against...it wasn't even close. Then, imagine that you had an entire team full of freshmen just like you that were forced to start and play significant playing time bc your coach had no other option but to play what he had and watch his team learn on the job during real gameplay. And you're competing against teams that aren't dealing with the same obstacles that you are to boot. It wouldn't be pretty at all and your team would get their asses handed to them, book it. You can have all the talent in the world, but it doesn't make a fricks difference if you aren't experienced and aren't used to playing together with your other talented teammates as a team. That's why you see teams like kentucky in basketball that have an all freshman starting 5 of ultra talented players, but get their asses handed to them by a less talented, but more experienced team of players, and they get beat. That's sports, and maturity and experience in basketball isn't nearly as important as it is in football.

Board full of goof balls, man brings you a perfect season and a Natty last year. Very next year loses 16 starters to the NFL, coaches move on, covid-19, opt outs, etc. Nobody had more to overcome than LSU