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Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Enadious
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Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:44 am to
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Peterson, Jefferson and Scott were partying till 2 AM on Thursday? Did not know that.


Condon reported it on his radio show, referring to all the 'cramps' some of the players were experiencing. Didn't name JJ or Scott though.
Posted by mstiger
mis'ipi
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:45 am to
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Game was over once we lost Peterson.


Fixed.
Posted by meder70824
Wesley Chapel, Florida
Member since Oct 2006
32 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:46 am to
These are good reasons why if he has a great upside which we can all see he does, they should have redshirted him and let him learn...
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:47 am to
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that had some success.


Actually, USC is a "run first and second" team.

Barkley's numbers are 1839, 10 TD/7 INT, 56% completion rate.

Is that great, or what?
Posted by TigerinCharlotte
Charlotte, NC - The Queen City
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:47 am to
The fact he could break it open on any given play. I'm not saying every play he should have run the Wildcat. Guys, I gotta believe the kid can throw a damn screen pass!!! I mean c'mon. You telling me he couldn't have thrown a high precentage pass or two!?
Posted by Enadious
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Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:48 am to
In truth, the game was over when we didn't get a chance to score when the interception was negated.

It had more to do with opportunity than personnel.
Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
8934 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:50 am to
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It had more to do with opportunity than personnel.


+1 doesnt matter who was playing down by 9 with 3 minutes to go and no timeouts against a top defensive unit on the road.... i mean really youre pretty much in desperation mode at this moment.
Posted by TigerinCharlotte
Charlotte, NC - The Queen City
Member since Sep 2008
1266 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:51 am to
"Desperation mode"...ok, sure. So what? You do what it takes to win. IMO.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
94667 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:52 am to
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The fact he could break it open on any given play. I'm not saying every play he should have run the Wildcat. Guys, I gotta believe the kid can throw a damn screen pass!!! I mean c'mon. You telling me he couldn't have thrown a high precentage pass or two!?





So because he's a homerun threat, that means he should start without knowing the QB position?

So that's two plays that Shep can run. The Wildcat and screen pass.

Does that not handcuff an offense?
Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:53 am to
hence we did what the coaches thought. bring in a QB who can throw and let him heave it, it didnt work out. odds are what less than 5% we come back regardless who is at qb... Yea running the ball with no timeouts and 3 minutes, great way to do what it takes to win...
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
94667 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:53 am to
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You do what it takes to win. IMO.


Like starting a true freshman QB that doesn't know the QB position yet?
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5297 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Condon reported it on his radio show, referring to all the 'cramps' some of the players were experiencing. Didn't name JJ or Scott though.


Gotcha

Still doesn't change the fact that Bama would not have beaten LSU without McElroy, Ingram and Kirkpatrick.

JJ and Scott weren't injured due to being out drinking on Thursday night.

What I guess you're getting at is that Miles doesn't have the team disciplined enough to take it easy on a Thursday night.

To that I'd say that if Jefferson and Scott weren't injured and the refs don't blow 5 or 6 critical calls, we win the game despite Lord Saban being the genius of all geniuses.

Posted by Bubba Bexley
Member since May 2007
3579 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:56 am to
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The funny thing about that is all season people on this forum have been calling for Jarrett Lee to at a minimum play a few series each game....I wonder how many people still believe that.


Then again, had that happened, maybe he would have been better prepared when he was forced to play on the road with the western division championship on the line. Speculation goes both ways.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:56 am to
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#1 recruit in the nation and he's not ready for that? Hmm, ok. If that's true, then the coaches need to get him ready.



You might be on to something.
Posted by mannybeingmanny
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28006 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:57 am to
He would have suffered too. The problem is we need to run the ball.

Just look at Drew Brees. No running game allows the defense to key on the qb. If we can run the ball, then we can talk about the qb.

If you take out the pick sixes last year, our offense and defense for that matter were much better. That killed us.
Posted by TigerinCharlotte
Charlotte, NC - The Queen City
Member since Sep 2008
1266 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:58 am to
Like starting a true freshman QB that doesn't know the QB position yet?

Dude, look at what the alternative was, and look at the outcome. And who knows if Shepp doesn't know the position at all? He very well might not. But I have to believe he has some sort of understanding of it. Again, let the kid run a few times out of the "Wildcat" make Bama stop it. Could they have? Maybe so/maybe not. I'm just saying I truly believe Shep would have given us a better chance to win. Again, the kid is such a threat when he has the ball. Who knows what he could have done.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18486 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:59 am to
quote:


What I guess you're getting at is that Miles doesn't have the team disciplined enough to take it easy on a Thursday night
.

Yeah, I was mainly commenting on the 'cramp' part of your post.

quote:

To that I'd say that if Jefferson and Scott weren't injured and the refs don't blow 5 or 6 critical calls, we win the game despite Lord Saban being the genius of all geniuses.


With Lee and Ridley, I still think we could have won with better time management and play calling.

But maybe not, as the refs blowing calls could have gone to 7 or 8 to cement the Bama win.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94667 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:00 am to
So yeah, you're saying to start a true freshman QB that doesn't know the position yet.


Wow.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:00 am to
when was the last time a freshman came into the sec and was successful? I don't trust Shep going through receiver progressions fast enough against a team like bama.
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