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re: I know it's hard but i want everyone's honest answer!
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:21 pm to fjohns1
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:21 pm to fjohns1
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You right i don't but with 1 TD and 7 int's against bama in his career it seems like history knows.
Well it's good that this matters. Remind me, how did Jefferson do against Alabama every other time he played them? It certainly looked relevant for him.
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:21 pm to fjohns1
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I'd give it a 1 percent chance
I can't put a % on it but bottom line is if there was any chance we should have taken it. Playing JJ gave us no chance and this was abundantly clear by half time.
Not playing Lee at all was a great disservice to the player and the QB position at LSU and may come back to bite Miles.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:22 pm to brichard
Ya'll think Jl couldnt have gone 3 and out? Now JJ did excute that plan real well last night, along with fumbling 3 times and throwing an int. But he had a good game, just ask him.
This post was edited on 1/10/12 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:23 pm to WNCTiger
If they put Lee in a position to fail like JJ, then no we would not have won. i.e., expecting your five lineman to block Bama's front 7 on passing plays with zero help from a TE, FB, or RB.
I have zero confidence that the coaches had any idea what they were doing. I'd love to know what they spent their 4 week break doing because surely they weren't gameplanning for this game.
I have zero confidence that the coaches had any idea what they were doing. I'd love to know what they spent their 4 week break doing because surely they weren't gameplanning for this game.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:26 pm to LSU Fan Forever 13
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I bet the team quit playing for him last night.
No doubt. I am sure I am not the only one who saw the looks on the faces of the receivers in the 3rd qrtr. and on when JJ would screw up.... its what they looked like last year when he did the same shite... Like, "come on man....!". I sure hope RR stays and Mett can treat him like a receiver..
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:32 pm to fjohns1
quote:What? You hate a quality QB with high character and a team oriented attitude?
I hate jarrett lee as a QB
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:39 pm to brichard
As far as we know, JL was a model citizen. Unless he made a pass at Miles' wife, daughter, or even Miles himself, there was no reason he could not have been inserted early in the 3rd quarter just to give JJ the hint that he MIGHT be replaced. The fact is, JJ played his best when he thought his job was in jeopardy. It would have also served the purpose to provide a change of pace.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:40 pm to fjohns1
You want honest so here it is:
1. Don't believe JJ should have been allowed back on team. Not sure why charges lowered to misdemeanor but given the reaction of the fans, alumni, board, supporters that the loss of JJ was a season ender-who knows? JJ made a career of immature finger pointing and believed he was entitled to starting Qb. Once Lee established himself as a player and a winner (at lest 8 of LSU's 2011 wins he figured in prominently)he should have not been permanently benched for the two pics against Bama in November. Maybe for the rest of the game, I don't know, that was Miles call and Lee looked like a stalked deer and had taken a pretty good shot from one of Bama's LBs. But he should have finished out the season as starter with JJ as no more than a back up or in an occasional role situation. Miles showed an immature hot dog that he could do no wrong and in the process threw Lee under the bus. If Lee stayed in the Nov game maybe we would have had the one loss, miss out on the SEC championship and get a chance to sit back and get a rematch. I continue to think that there should not have been a rematch but it is what it is.
2.Drew Brees would have had a hard time last night with the offensive game plan he would have been working with. Changing QB may not have had any effect. I think the only chance was to have crossed up Nick and started Lee in hopes that Bama had built their defensive scheme around JJ and the option. Slim hope given the high level of play by the entire Bama defense and coaching staff, but still, a hope. Given JJ's play, I'd have pulled him out in the 2nd to coach him up and let him get his bearings. Lee could not have done much worse and maybe could have read the zone and zone overs and made a play or two to loosen up the Bama D.
3.I don't know how many plays the Tiger D was on the field, but it had to be nearly 60 or 70. Holding a team to 3 FG and a late TD seems like a pretty good effort, all the more so because the defensive scheme seemed anemic at best and showed little adjustment. They handled the run very well.
4. The bottom line, just one guy's opinion is that Sabin, when it counted most and on a national stage for the title, proved he and his staff were better coaches. Much is made of the job of the coach and his staff is to provide their players to be in position to see the game and make plays and succeed. Miles and his staff did not and handed their team's head to Sabin and the Tide on a platter.
PS-All you Auburn fans out there reveling in the Bama win-get F*%&#@! I know I have to eat some crap from Bama fans but their team has earned that for them. You all can shut up and not hold your heads up until you can figure out how to win the West again.
1. Don't believe JJ should have been allowed back on team. Not sure why charges lowered to misdemeanor but given the reaction of the fans, alumni, board, supporters that the loss of JJ was a season ender-who knows? JJ made a career of immature finger pointing and believed he was entitled to starting Qb. Once Lee established himself as a player and a winner (at lest 8 of LSU's 2011 wins he figured in prominently)he should have not been permanently benched for the two pics against Bama in November. Maybe for the rest of the game, I don't know, that was Miles call and Lee looked like a stalked deer and had taken a pretty good shot from one of Bama's LBs. But he should have finished out the season as starter with JJ as no more than a back up or in an occasional role situation. Miles showed an immature hot dog that he could do no wrong and in the process threw Lee under the bus. If Lee stayed in the Nov game maybe we would have had the one loss, miss out on the SEC championship and get a chance to sit back and get a rematch. I continue to think that there should not have been a rematch but it is what it is.
2.Drew Brees would have had a hard time last night with the offensive game plan he would have been working with. Changing QB may not have had any effect. I think the only chance was to have crossed up Nick and started Lee in hopes that Bama had built their defensive scheme around JJ and the option. Slim hope given the high level of play by the entire Bama defense and coaching staff, but still, a hope. Given JJ's play, I'd have pulled him out in the 2nd to coach him up and let him get his bearings. Lee could not have done much worse and maybe could have read the zone and zone overs and made a play or two to loosen up the Bama D.
3.I don't know how many plays the Tiger D was on the field, but it had to be nearly 60 or 70. Holding a team to 3 FG and a late TD seems like a pretty good effort, all the more so because the defensive scheme seemed anemic at best and showed little adjustment. They handled the run very well.
4. The bottom line, just one guy's opinion is that Sabin, when it counted most and on a national stage for the title, proved he and his staff were better coaches. Much is made of the job of the coach and his staff is to provide their players to be in position to see the game and make plays and succeed. Miles and his staff did not and handed their team's head to Sabin and the Tide on a platter.
PS-All you Auburn fans out there reveling in the Bama win-get F*%&#@! I know I have to eat some crap from Bama fans but their team has earned that for them. You all can shut up and not hold your heads up until you can figure out how to win the West again.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:57 pm to Wampumbunny
Are you honestly suprised at the QB situation last night? All you have to do is look back at the SECCG. JJ at the helm and zero first downs in the first half. I believe it was commented on that it was some sort of record. Did Miles pull him then? No, he played the entire game. We won the game because of LSU defensive help, and the GA defense was gassed near the end.
My point, if Miles wasn't going to pull JJ after THAT performance, he wasn't ever going to do it.
My point, if Miles wasn't going to pull JJ after THAT performance, he wasn't ever going to do it.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:57 pm to Champagne
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Miles better get the frick away from the offense and hire an OC with a clue. Be a CEO, recruit and be the public face of the program. Stay the frick away from the offense, Miles.
Absolutely.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 2:17 pm to ken757
Yeah, good point and I agree. I am not suprised that JJ stayed in, just very frustrated and angry that Les seemingly handles miscreants with kid gloves. I'll bet he's tougher on his kids-if so-why not with JJ? But your point is spot on.
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