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I hear there's going to be a student march on campus tomorrow to protest
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:16 pm
the lack of action on behalf of victims of sexual assault by LSU authorities. It seems these alleged coverups were not just related to athletes but other students as well. Big ole black eye on the university.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:18 pm to geauxgrrl
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It seems these alleged coverups were not just related to athletes but other students as well.
What incentive does the university have to cover for Johnny Frat Boy?
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:21 pm to The Pirate King
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What incentive does the university admin have to “cover” for Johnny Frat Boy?
Maybe not so much incentives but remember that Title IX cases fell within the Division of Student Affairs, which handled cases for all students -- not just athletes.
So if those folks were not doing a great job investigating cases involving athletes, it's not really shocking their work was suspect when it came to other students.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:21 pm to geauxgrrl
Good. Sexual assault can’t be tolerated in any way.
But there is no alleged coverup. Gross incompetence, yes. Criminal conspiracy, no.
But there is no alleged coverup. Gross incompetence, yes. Criminal conspiracy, no.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:25 pm to geauxgrrl
People have been criticizing every single university in the country for years in regards to “not doing enough in cases of rape”, it makes it kind of difficult when the victim goes to the university instead of the police.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:26 pm to sabes que
Which I don’t understand, disclaimer I’m not a woman, but I feel like if you get raped, do you really care if the person is kicked out of school? If you were raped you should want them in jail.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:26 pm to sabes que
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it makes it kind of difficult when the victim goes to the university instead of the police.
...and also refuses to press charges in some cases.
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:31 pm to sabes que
I would think you wouldn’t want your rapist walking around the same campus as you. The trauma these victims go through is very intense. Sad stuff.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:33 pm to WhiteGramblingGrad72
Right, but if you were raped, I would think them being disciplined by the school would be at the bottom of concerns, you would want them in jail, so why not go to the police? If you’re not sure if it was really rape maybe? You were on Xanax and aren’t sure if you consented?
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:35 pm to sabes que
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but I feel like if you get raped, do you really care if the person is kicked out of school?
One of the young ladies in the USA Today story said she still had classes with the dude she claimed had violated her. I can definitely get why it would be infuriating to see him walking around campus, let alone in the same classroom with you.
And whether we think Title IX cases are a good way to get justice or not, that does nothing to acquit LSU of its liability to faithfully comply with the law.
Guilbeau hammered on this point earlier today:
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The most disturbing, distasteful and damning part of the piece, though, was the apparent organized teamwork and togetherness by LSU officials throughout campus.
It looks like just about all branches of LSU power were in this game of dismiss, divert, disregard and deny female accusers of various deviant behavior by football players and others, including rape and beatings. The football program, a tennis coach, a diving coach, two senior athletic administrators, the athletic department, the university, the Title IX office and LSU Police — they were all in.
Lack of institutional control is written all over LSU's face, and this will not bode well for the current NCAA investigations of LSU basketball and football still transpiring.
"They're making decisions that are best for the success of the program," Temple professor Elizabeth Taylor, who studies sexual assaults by athletes, says in the story. "And they're making the decision to put the safety and well-being of other students behind a player's ability to play on a Saturday afternoon."
Taylor said LSU displayed the same systemic lack of ability to handle sexual accusations as previously seen in high profile cases at Michigan State, Penn State and Baylor.
The story says at least seven LSU officials had "direct knowledge" about the continued beatings of a female LSU tennis player by former LSU wide receiver Drake Davis in 2017 and '18.
Finally, in April of 2018, associate athletic director Miriam Segar, the athletic department's senior woman administrator, began to see the light and filed a Title IX report. Davis, though, was still practicing with the football team in early August 2018 after continued beatings of the tennis player.
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This is some pretty serious shite. And whether you agree with how Guilbeau paints it or not, there's a damn good reason the interim President is bringing in outside help. He sees how quickly this is going to blow up.
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LSU interim president Thomas Galligan, who should be retained, made a smart move Monday by hiring an outside law firm specializing in university issues to conduct an independent review of his school's sleazy shenanigans.
And instead of being overly defensive, he admitted wrongdoing and mentioned "misconduct" that was "ignored, dismissed outright or mishandled by coaches and university officials."
That is a start.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:36 pm to geauxgrrl
I see tons of left-wing students saying that they want the fb program dismantled. CEO not saying "Yeah I hate Drumpf, frick you too!" on that FNC segment months ago sent them over the edge and they haven't climbed back. Throw in the MeToo stuff and Robert Mann turning "his" students into activists and you get this
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:36 pm to geauxgrrl
I think that the athletes are going to finally learn to stay the frick away from the girls who throw themselves at them. They are all motivated by $$. One experience with a ho isn't worth your career
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:37 pm to WhiteGramblingGrad72
Some of the victims are very afraid of retaliation.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:38 pm to Beessnax
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One conquest of a ho to brag about to your baws isn't worth your career
FIFY
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:38 pm to BrerTiger
So she still had a class with him. What if she didn’t and he lived in the same apartment complex? Isn’t that just as bad? That’s why you go to the police if you are raped, going to the university about it seems like you aren’t really serious about the allegation, IMO
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:38 pm to geauxgrrl
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the lack of action on behalf of victims of sexual assault by LSU authorities
Took swift action to change Middleton’s name though.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:39 pm to Beessnax
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I think that the athletes are going to finally learn to stay the frick away from the girls who throw themselves at them. They are all motivated by $$. One experience with a ho isn't worth your career
The fact that some people think this is the issue here is appalling
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:39 pm to BrerTiger
If someone from my work busted in my house right now and raped me, I wouldn’t go talk to HR about it, I would call the police
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:41 pm to BrerTiger
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It looks like just about all branches of LSU power were in this game of dismiss, divert, disregard and deny female accusers of various deviant behavior by football players and others, including rape and beatings. The football program, a tennis coach, a diving coach, two senior athletic administrators, the athletic department, the university, the Title IX office and LSU Police — they were all in.
That’s a horseshite assumption by Guilbeau, who is a notorious anti-LSU a-hole.
Ask yourself what is more likely, incompetence or a coordinated effort between several parties? I think the answer is clear.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:41 pm to sabes que
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That’s why you go to the police if you are raped, going to the university about it seems like you aren’t really serious about the allegation, IMO
I'm not disagreeing with you but it's not an either/or proposition. You can do both.
And you can do more. Get a lawyer. Hire a PI. Not everybody has the resources to do so but if it were my daughter I'd do all I could to pursue justice. There are extralegal solutions as well that every father has thought about but I ain't going there in this thread.
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