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re: How would YOU run our offense?

Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by Tompy45
Gulf Breeze
Member since Jul 2009
594 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:30 pm to
What ever UTAH used v.s. Alabama in the Sugar bowl!
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:30 pm to
A small suggestion: I seem to recall we threw a couple really nice short slant passes against Georgia last year—pretty easy to throw and we picked up good yardage too. I wouldn't mind seeing more of those in 2010.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:35 pm to
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What ever UTAH used v.s. Alabama in the Sugar bowl!
If we played with half their emotion 3/4 of our problems would be solved imo. Players are a reflection of their coach in terms of intensity too.

Miles is lost...as were our players most of the time in the last couple of years.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:39 pm to
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run a balanced offense get Z.Lee or Shep at qb


GTFO ranter. If we're relying on Zach Lee this year we're fricked.
Posted by cggeaxtigers
Southeastern, North America
Member since Jan 2008
3264 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:43 pm to
I'd choose to pound it.

If (when) that doesn't work b/c all defenses will have 10 in the box until we prove we can pass....

Spread it around to talent on the outside (we were horrible about this last year). Force defenses to cover Tolliver & Shep every play. Even if we use them as decoys, the D still has to cover them. Screens, slants, passes to rbs out of backfield. 4 WRs sets, etc. Spread formations. We'd have to nickle and dime 'em.

Stop running the option. Shep is the only one who can run it - & he's been moved to wr. Either move him back and let's run the Pat White offense, or let's move forward and use the QB as a passer. We have 39 other players who can run the ball just fine.

NOTE: I will concede that the option (Spread/Tebow offense) might be necessary. I just wish JJ was a bigger running threat.

Concerns: Passing down field.

If our QBs can only make 1 read, let's put them in position to succeed with roll-outs. This gives our O-line & qb a little more time. It also puts us in better position to throw the ball away, or to run. Either way, the read is easier. Screens and roll-outs are our friends. (JJ throws better on the run, anyway)





This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 3:54 pm
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:47 pm to
multip. pkgs, however, my base pkg would be power i with a good all purpose fb. use them like arky used peyton hillis or tenn used shaun bryson. i would let jj get to know d. peterson, as they would become best friends. shep would touch the ball in many ways, including some wild tiger, and he would definately throw some passes (im looking at you, crowton).the option with jj would be ditched. there would be a lot of rollouts designed for a run throw option. at least until i can get his mechanics fixed and get him comfortable in the pocket and with straight drops.
Posted by Frankie Knuckles
Member since Jul 2010
2807 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:48 pm to
If something or someone is producing, don't abandon it for the rest of the game.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:01 pm to
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I just wish JJ was a bigger running threat.


Well JJ is a running threat, he is a great running threat. Crowton uses his running ability in the most ineffective way possible by making him run the option. QB draws, sneaks, hell let him improvise a few plays, he does those well. But JJ cannot run the option to save his life. Crowton has to accept this. Design plays that allows JJ to improvise, run more QB draws, but for the love of god no more option plays.
Posted by bamfchris
the flats
Member since May 2010
461 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:08 pm to
I understand the idea behind not always running the option to the short side of the field but there comes a time and a place for running the ball to the short side of the field. With players as fast as ours we have to speed to hit the edge even to the short side. To not have defensive lines slant and backers loading up to the wide side you have to occasionally run it to the short side. Its the same idea as running it to the weak side. Yea, there are more blockers that way but to break tendencies you have to switch it up. To consider adandoning the option all together is just a joke. One of the best ways to utilize our speed is to be able to run options, zone reads, zone options, and similar plays that attack the edge. Most people on here don't know the difference between a play on NCAA and a real play that works in football. I would run mainly pro set, gun, single back(ace) and basically not try to do too much, which was our problem last year. The key to any offense is rhythm and momentum and trying to have 500 different packages at the same time trying to get 35 people the ball is not ever going to work. We don't play to our strengths; crowton tries to create them himself. JJ will never be a qb that can audible and he can never make more than a 3 wr read progression; he just cant. Like the guy above said, we need to run bootlegs etc, where your reads are all laid out in front of you. We have the team to keep it simple... but who frickin knows
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:08 pm to
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GTFO ranter. If we're relying on Zach Lee this year we're fricked.


Not true, now if Crowton continues his thing where he doesn't call plays that utilize the QB's strengths then we are screwed no matter who the QB is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295193 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:12 pm to
Fan vote. Only on third downs and two minute situations however... Ten cents a vote.
Posted by Intrepid
Hobe Sound, Florida
Member since Aug 2006
613 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:13 pm to
J Jefferson a good qb, could improvise and told to run when an open field. R. Sheppard needs to be LSU no. 2 qb. He is a great runner and I bet he could do option well. I also bet he could pass short and medium. What a threat, do Miles and G. Crowton think about this?
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 4:15 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:13 pm to
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Fan vote. Only on third downs and two minute situations however... Ten cents a vote.


Would they gve Les extra time outs so that the vote could be tallied in time?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77734 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:15 pm to
veer offense

Posted by Flyin Tighas
FWB in the 850
Member since Sep 2009
1780 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:18 pm to
By seeing if I could entice Mike Leach to LSU for a ton of money as an OC....

Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5416 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:19 pm to
Shepard would need to get the ball once every set of downs. Whether its on a end around, a reverse, just a straight up run out of the back field, or a pass down the field.

Jefferson would do alot of rolling out to the right!

Since Jefferson isnt amazing at the deep ball I probably wouldnt send much of anything past 25 yards. I think this offense is capable at racking up alot of Yac and I would try to exploit it. I always love watching the Ravens on defense after they intercept the ball and how they lateral it to one another, I would try to make it where it is possible on almost every passing down to have a lateral avaible cause those things are just nasty and can rack up alot of yards.

Ridley and Ford would get lots of counters and pitches to the outside.

Options would be run to the long side of the field. Sometimes spice it up with alittle triple action.

Lots of Misdirection and Trickery would be evident in my offense.

This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Flyin Tighas
FWB in the 850
Member since Sep 2009
1780 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:26 pm to
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I always love watching the Ravens on defense after they intercept the ball and how they lateral it to one another, I would try to make it where it is possible on almost every passing down to have a lateral avaible cause those things are just nasty and can rack up alot of yards.


How does this apply to running the LSU offense...

You would suggest the offense employs this strategy?
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5416 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:30 pm to
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How does this apply to running the LSU offense...

You would suggest the offense employs this strategy?


after a team intercepts the ball, dont they try to advance the ball? Doesnt an offense try to advance the ball? You get how they can fit together now. I would suggest they dont make it what makes the offense tick but make receivers aware that they can lateral the ball. It woul be the same sorta concept as on the play with Holiday and Lafell in the 08 game at Florida. It created once of the bigger plays we had on that awful night!
Posted by Flyin Tighas
FWB in the 850
Member since Sep 2009
1780 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:40 pm to
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You get how they can fit together now.


No because you can't be suggesting that LSU recKlessly laterals the ball as a common factor in their offense..

When you have some of the best talent in the nation your YAC should be enough....

This takes receivers and linemen blocking down field...

Laterals....
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 4:45 pm
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5631 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 5:23 pm to
A-11 OFFENSE... j/k ROFL
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