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re: How obvious has it been for the last 5 or so years of Miles' stubbornness...

Posted on 12/13/16 at 6:23 am to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 6:23 am to
And neither do you......
Posted by Mikethegreat
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 6:48 am to
He's something like 10-8 in his last 18 sec games and that's with more talent than anybody outside of Alabama. You don't get that kind of talent many places and he hasn't done anything decent in forever in a game
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 7:02 am to
Lol dude winningest coach means most wins I don't know what els to tell you but miles isn't LSUs winningest coach. And while the numbers you posted are true saying he's the winningest coach isn't a fact or an opinion it's just false.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 7:04 am
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 7:15 am to
You have no love for miles? When you say things like this it destroys your credibility.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 7:47 am to
He has zero cred in the 1st place... he goes crazy about facts that anyone can look up and always avoids anything negative yet true about Miles.... he has zero clue that running a football program is more than just stats... intangibles he does not understand... and YES he loves Miles more than LSU... he has made that clear with his hatred and wanting O to fail....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:16 am to
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And neither do you......



Never said i did. Im not the one posting as if i do.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:17 am to
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Lol dude winningest coach means most wins I don't know what els to tell you but miles isn't LSUs winningest coach. And while the numbers you posted are true saying he's the winningest coach isn't a fact or an opinion it's just false.


As i said. I shouldve said most successful.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:21 am to
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You have no love for miles? When you say things like this it destroys your credibility.


Its like you cant understand that what i posted about miles are facts. Ive always said imo miles is at best a top 15 coach with questionable game day coaching.
When i post his accomplishments im not posting an opinion.


These are facts...
Miles has the best win %.
Best ooc win %.
Most ranked teams beaten.
2 of lsu 3 title game appearances.
7 of lsu's 28 top 15 finishes
Most top 25 finishes
Most top 20 finishes
Most top 15 finishes
Most top 10 finishes
Most top 5 finishes.
Miles has as many top 5 finishes as Saban, Mac,and Dietzel combined.
7th best win % since the creation of the sec.


When i post those numbers im not defending miles in any way. Those are the numbers he achieved in his tenure at lsu. The simple fact that you deem this as defending or touting miles lets people see your bias. At no time have i said miles is a great coach. I have only said his tenure was great.


If i said the earth is revolving around the sun, am i defending the sun?
At what point did facts turn into defending?

Ive never once said how GREAT A COACH miles is.ive only posted statistical facts about his tenure.

If you deem the numbers i posted above as defending then it's clear you're letting your bias cloud your judgement.

If you were to post miles' sec record the last 3 years i wouldnt deem that as shitting on miles. They are facts.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 9:34 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:26 am to
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He has zero cred in the 1st place... he goes crazy about facts that anyone can look up and always avoids anything negative yet true about Miles...


Ha ha. You dont even know what an individual record is in cfb and you want desperately for people to think you arent a bumbling idiot. You yourself have even admitted i know my shite.
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intangibles he does not understand


Says the guy that uses stats whenever they benefit his argument yet deems them meaningless when they dont.
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and YES he loves Miles more than LSU.


And you hate miles more than you love lsu.
You dont even go to lsu games. You dont pay into TAF.
Youre as much a lsu fan as you are knowledgeable about the sport of football and youve been exposed as not knowing things that are common knowledge.
You blasted lsu for our offense getting plays from the sideline without knowing that every cfb program gets plays from the sideline because the ncaa doesnt allow helmet radios.
You called me dumb for saying JJ'S single season qb rushing record was an individual record.
You actually said having a good passing attack HURTS rbs yard per carry.

Youve been outed as an old guy that thinks because he is old, he knows shite. You dont and youve repeatedly proven it.

You never even discuss actual football or any sport. Your some drunk momma's boy that thinks just because youre gonna die before we do that it gives some insight that we dont when all it mean is that youve been dumb for longer.youre a pathetic joke of a man.
Youre not a lsu fan.
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with his hatred and wanting O to fail....


Using your logic you wanted miles to fail.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 9:41 am
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:26 am to
It's also obvious that top coaches were in fact NOT beating down LSUs door. It's obvious that the LSU brand is not what negas think it is. It's obvious that we are now worse off as a program for firing Miles.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:37 am to
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It's also obvious that top coaches were in fact NOT beating down LSUs door. It's obvious that the LSU brand is not what negas think it is


To be fair, it's not like our AD actually held a real coaching search. He tried 2 names every AD would contact and then hired a guy already on staff.
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t's obvious that we are now worse off as a program for firing Miles.

While that may be true at this moment,it was time for miles to go. He repeatedly refused to change the offense and his refusal to allow our qbs to throw over the middle severely handicapped our offense.
Miles had great success at lsu but even the best tenures end and i didnt like the way the program was trending.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:18 am to
There is a difference in getting plays from the sideline and having the team look over almost every play to see play needs to be run... the last two years (before coach O) the LSU offense would break the huddle and stop and look st the sideline for the right play.... I would say 95% of teams in college DONT do this.... that's what I have been saying. Sorry you can't seem to understand since it doesn't fit your agenda..... so yes u day you are not defending Miles???? Then why do your post all his stats over and over and over and over... if you say he isn't that good of a coach why do keep posting these stats... what point are you trying to make?????
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 11:32 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:29 am to
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.. I would say 95% of teams in college DONT



Youd be wrong. Do you know how few cfb qbs are given full audible autonomy?

Even your heart throb saban has his offense look to the sideline at times.


And youre changing the subject. You said only lsu looks to the sideline for new plays. Thats exactly what you said.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 11:30 am
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:34 am to
I didn't say only... you make it sound like every team does this
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:42 am to
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didn't say only... you make it sound like every team does this


Ok. Let me guess you also never said i know my shite. Whatever.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 12:12 pm to
Ok so are you saying that you didn't say this????? You damn sure did and you are wrong... FACT.... whatever. Oh and I guess you think you are as smart as O because YOU sais you could have coached this team to A 5-2 record as coach O did... I guess you didn't say that either...
Posted by TigerBlitz03
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by The Real LSU King
Bayou Country
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 12:56 pm to
1/9, worst day of a Tiger fan's life.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 1:04 pm to
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You damn sure did and you are wrong... FACT


I said every gets their next play from the sideline. Thats a fact.

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and I guess you think you are as smart as O because YOU sais you could have coached this team to A 5-2 record as coach O did... I guess you didn't say that either...


I said that because i have ran as many successful offenses, defenses , and successful programs as Ed Orgeron. It was in jest. But hey im talking to someone that thinks Matt Mauck's td record isnt an individual record.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 1:22 pm to
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so yes u day you are not defending Miles???? Then why do your post all his stats over and over and over and over


Because they are facts. Why do you get so upset over posting facts that paint a lsu player or coach in a positive light?
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if you say he isn't that good of a coach why do keep posting these stat
please point to me saying he isnt a good coach.
quote:

what point are you trying to make?????
to inject some factual information into the rant.
Why do you constantly shite on lsu and miles' tenure? The other day you posted boom on post saying lsu has been mediocre its entire history before saban just because it was posted towards me.

Its amazing how posting facts about orgeron means i want him to fail yet you posting your opinion about miles doesnt mean you wanted him to fail.

If you cant understand why a season ticket holder would he upset about a career dline coach being hired at lsu then i dont know what to tell you.
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