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How hard is it to understand, "Miles' offense" isn't the problem. Having a QB is
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:11 pm
This misnomer has been driving me up a wall.
05-07 - Jamarcus and Flynn
10 - Junior Lee/Jefferson (not great offensive year, but 11 win season)
11 - Senior Lee/Jefferson
13 - Senior Mettenberger
Do you want to know why we run the ball so much with a supposed "archaic offense" in those other years?
08- First time starting and Inexperienced Lee
09 - First time starting and Inexperienced Jefferson
12 - First time starting and Inexperienced Mettenberger
14 - First time starting and Inexperienced Jennings
15 - First time starting and Inexperienced Harris
You see the trend? It's plain and simple. When Miles doesn't have an experienced quarterback who can make accurate throws to keep the offense moving, he will ALWAYS lean on his usually strong run game. You can call it stuck in the past or whatever you want, but he has proven again and again that he is willing to let his QB loose when they can make plays.
If there's a criticism at all, it's that we haven't gotten those QBs more playing time to get them ready. I.e. Not letting Harris finish out the year last season to prepare him better for this year. QB recruits not panning out, not making it to campus, or even getting kicked off the team have all contributed to this string of regularly having first time starters, but in the end it's on the staff to get them ready.
TL;DR - Keeping Miles was the right thing to do, at least for one more year. He finally has an experienced returning QB, (HB, and WRS) with an offense that should be greatly improved along with a lot of returning starters and what should be the #1 recruiting class coming in. If we fall flat again, there will be no excuses.
05-07 - Jamarcus and Flynn
10 - Junior Lee/Jefferson (not great offensive year, but 11 win season)
11 - Senior Lee/Jefferson
13 - Senior Mettenberger
Do you want to know why we run the ball so much with a supposed "archaic offense" in those other years?
08- First time starting and Inexperienced Lee
09 - First time starting and Inexperienced Jefferson
12 - First time starting and Inexperienced Mettenberger
14 - First time starting and Inexperienced Jennings
15 - First time starting and Inexperienced Harris
You see the trend? It's plain and simple. When Miles doesn't have an experienced quarterback who can make accurate throws to keep the offense moving, he will ALWAYS lean on his usually strong run game. You can call it stuck in the past or whatever you want, but he has proven again and again that he is willing to let his QB loose when they can make plays.
If there's a criticism at all, it's that we haven't gotten those QBs more playing time to get them ready. I.e. Not letting Harris finish out the year last season to prepare him better for this year. QB recruits not panning out, not making it to campus, or even getting kicked off the team have all contributed to this string of regularly having first time starters, but in the end it's on the staff to get them ready.
TL;DR - Keeping Miles was the right thing to do, at least for one more year. He finally has an experienced returning QB, (HB, and WRS) with an offense that should be greatly improved along with a lot of returning starters and what should be the #1 recruiting class coming in. If we fall flat again, there will be no excuses.
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:15 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
That is true Rex, but Miles is accountable for the players he recruits at Quarterback and he has failed miserably at that position.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:15 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Those QBs play so poorly because he can't develop them worth a shite and he will not stop handcuffing the offense and leave it alone to a competent OC.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:15 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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He finally has an experienced returning QB,
Well, this sure sounds familiar...
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:15 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
We had seven games to start the season to work on short timing throws that seem so routine among most college football programs. We chose not to.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:17 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Cam Cameron needs to throw his Air Coryell playbook into a garbage can, light it on fire, and then pee on the ashes.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:18 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
You don't know what "misnomer" means.
The word you are looking for is misconception.
The word you are looking for is misconception.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:19 pm to TigerFanNKaty
It's a common misconception that misnomer means misconception.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:20 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Rex, you're still a frickin idiot. I would explain it to you, but experience tells me it's a waist of time.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:20 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
So explain why he hasnt prepared any of his recent QBs to play at a high level. Explain why he can't tailor his scheme of offense around the skill set of his QB to maximize their talent or make them comfortable in the offense. Why after 2 or 3 coordinators our offense looks the same? Why can't we adjust mid game when things aren't going well?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:20 pm to Sentrius
You're getting into a chicken and the egg argument though. How can you keep chucking the ball around when your QB for example Harris last night comes out 2/10. But then how can you consistently develop someone when it's a different guy every year?
How does it sound familiar when we've only had one twice in the last 5 years?
Oh and those two years (2011) we went to the title game and rewrote the SEC offensive record books (2013).
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Well, this sure sounds familiar...
How does it sound familiar when we've only had one twice in the last 5 years?
Oh and those two years (2011) we went to the title game and rewrote the SEC offensive record books (2013).
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:23 pm to Rex
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We had seven games to start the season to work on short timing throws that seem so routine among most college football programs. We chose not to.
Yep
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:23 pm to INFIDEL
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Rex, you're still a frickin idiot. I would explain it to you, but experience tells me it's a waist of time.
He made a good point.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:24 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Maybe it was bad for Harris to go to that qb guru camp.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:25 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
I think its all about calling the right plays at the right time. All we like to do is throw deep. We rarely ever gove him some easy throws to get in a rhythm before going deep. Last night is the proof. We kept trying to go deep without any rhythm and it was horrendous.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We had seven games to start the season to work on short timing throws that seem so routine among most college football programs. We chose not to.
My retort to that is remember Harris' 7 straight TD drives in the Sam Houston game last year? Oh and then we got hot housed at Auburn.
You can work on the offense against cupcakes all you want, but experience against SEC defenses is the only thing that will allow him to grow.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:26 pm to baybeefeetz
I thought the excuse offered by Les defenders was that everything would change for the better when Les got an OC he could trust. Enter Cam- an NFL experienced OC who had developed Brres and Flacco. Hell he was even Les' roommate in college! This was it. Finally an OC les could trust. Get ready for those NC trophies Tiger Fans. We finally got the OC we were waiting on.
Now a few yeas later I'm being told we just need yet another OC? Oh yeah, the problem is the assistants and an inexperienced QB. It could never be the HC.
Now a few yeas later I'm being told we just need yet another OC? Oh yeah, the problem is the assistants and an inexperienced QB. It could never be the HC.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:26 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
you realize that you're saying that in order for a qb to be proficient, not good, but just decent enough to be trusted with complex tasks like slants and posts, they require multiple full seasons as a starting qb.
do you watch any other college football? There are now a laundry list of programs that are plugging in virtually unrecruited second and third string qb's and the offense for the team remains damn near the same.
do you watch any other college football? There are now a laundry list of programs that are plugging in virtually unrecruited second and third string qb's and the offense for the team remains damn near the same.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:26 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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ou're getting into a chicken and the egg argument though. How can you keep chucking the ball around when your QB for example Harris last night comes out 2/10. But then how can you consistently develop someone when it's a different guy every year?
You're making the assumption that a QBs first year starting will always be a struggle.
There are plenty of teams who can plug in a new guy every year or two without missing a beat. Why is it that the only time LSU fans can expect solid production out of a QB is if it's their junior or senior year and/or 2nd or 3rd year starting? Hell, even then it's still no guarantee (JJ in 2011). That's pathetic QB coaching and development.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:27 pm to Tiger Nation 84
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Last night is the proof. We kept trying to go deep without any rhythm and it was horrendous.
At this point he can barely complete those with regularity. His best passes are deep.
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