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How does redshirting work?

Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:32 am
Posted by DlineU
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:32 am
Say for instance we keep Myles Brennan as a backup just for emergencies and maybe mop up duty, and by season's end we end up not using him more than 4 games. Can we then give him a redshirt year, or does it have to be done earlier in the year and then proceed to not put him in more than the 4 games?
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:33 am to
The NCAA sends you a red t shirt in the mail and you’re good to go
Posted by HighRoller
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:33 am to
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by season's end we end up not using him more than 4 games
Posted by DlineU
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:34 am to
Funny but not that funny. Haha
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:37 am to
In fact, there is no "giving" about it. All players have 5 years to play 4. Meaning, once you have played 4 seasons - your eligibility is out and you have 5 years from 1st enrollment to do so.

In the recent past - one play in any game meant "you played in that year". Longer ago, there was a few games at the BEGINNING of the year that one could play without being deemed to have used that year's eligibility.

They have now said - a player can play for 4 or fewer games (any number of plays and any game s of the season) and not have burned that year's eligibility.


So, it needn't be some "declaration". It is a simple matter of 5 years to play 4 and it takes more than 4 games in that "one year" to count.


This post was edited on 9/19/18 at 7:40 am
Posted by jflsufan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:37 am to
So the 4 games does not have to be in the first half of the year? You can play all 60 minutes of each of the last 4 games and still redshirt?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:38 am to
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So the 4 games does not have to be in the first half of the year? You can play all 60 minutes of each of the last 4 games and still redshirt?


correct. New this season and going forward
Posted by DlineU
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:41 am to
Great response thank you. Yes declaration would have been a better word as well to better explain my question.
This post was edited on 9/19/18 at 7:43 am
Posted by forever lsu30
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:55 am to
Solid. To expound just a little:


The NCAA says you have 10 semesters to be eligible over the course of 8 semesters worth of 4 playing seasons of your sport.

Meaning, when you attend class Day 1 of Fall semester (call it Fall 2018), your clock starts & you have until Spring 2023 to play 4 seasons of the sport.

You cannot start Fall 2018, attend classes for 4 semesters then take a 3 semester break to then come back to complete 4 more semesters & play. Your clock keeps running to Spring 2023 then runs out.

There are major exceptions by way of injuries & special circumstances. But that comes with the area of Gray shirting.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:01 am to
You may be off on gray shirt. I believe Gray shirting is totally different and completely unrelated to red shirt. It has to do with a player committing to a school, but paying his own way so as not to burn a scholarship.
This post was edited on 9/19/18 at 8:02 am
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:09 am to
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You may be off on gray shirt. I believe Gray shirting is totally different and completely unrelated to red shirt. It has to do with a player committing to a school, but paying his own way so as not to burn a scholarship.


Yep.

If I agree to attend LSU but they have 25 scholarships already "assigned" to others for 2019, I can "gray shirt" (totally made up term) and pay for the Fall semester - "walk on" for Spring and get my scholarship and count as a 2020 guy. It has become more tricky in recent years and isn't as easy as that. But, that is the gist.

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:11 am to
When you're being recruited, they promise you will start as a Freshman. Then they sit you out for a year. Like that.
Posted by The Cool No 9
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:12 am to
How is that 31 year old still kicking field goals for Colorado? Must have enrolled when he was 26..
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:14 am to
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How is that 31 year old still kicking field goals for Colorado? Must have enrolled when he was 26..


Yep. LSU has a 27 y/o punter because of the same thing. Went pro Baseball for a few years and enrolled much later.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:32 am to
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You may be off on gray shirt. I believe Gray shirting is totally different and completely unrelated to red shirt. It has to do with a player committing to a school, but paying his own way so as not to burn a scholarship.


Yep.

If I agree to attend LSU but they have 25 scholarships already "assigned" to others for 2019, I can "gray shirt" (totally made up term) and pay for the Fall semester - "walk on" for Spring and get my scholarship and count as a 2020 guy. It has become more tricky in recent years and isn't as easy as that. But, that is the gist.




As said, greyshirt is a made up term to describe a work around the situation described. But your eligibility clock starts when you enroll full time regardless of being on the team or not. A grey shirt cannot be part of the team. If he attends in the fall at all, he must be a part time student and pay his own way. In the spring he can join the team full time on scholarship and his eligibility clock won't start until next season.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:32 am to
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How is that 31 year old still kicking field goals for Colorado? Must have enrolled when he was 26..


He's one of the younger transfers from BYU
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:40 am to
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BYU

Mormon missionary work is one of the special circumstances that suspends the eligibility clock for the duration.
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