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re: How critical is this season for Miles?

Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by Sammich
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:26 pm to
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With the TALENT he will have in 2010 If he goes 9-3 and has to win a bowl game to get to 10??? NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!! Not for the money he is making.



Frick you PJ..You pulled for Bama & your butt buddy Saban last year, and your on record doing so. Blow it out your Big 'ol Roll Tide arse.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:30 pm to
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No Gerry didn't coach in 2001 or 2004 at LSU. Why would you bring up Big Gerry?


Who else do you think was coaching those teams? Fidel Castro? Oliver North? Patty Hearst?

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That wasn't the reason for Coker's dismissal


There wasn't one reason. There were reasons.

"There were a lot of issues, but certainly the direction the program was going was certainly one," Dee said. "I wouldn't say that was totally it, but if you want to look in that direction, that was one. There were disappointments. There were opportunities, I think, to play better and we didn't. It all comes to the head coach."


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Sure he had 1 mediocre/poor season, but on the whole, he had much better coaching career than Butch Davis


What you intentionally fail to mention whenever you bring up Butch Davis is the sanctions imposed on them during his stay there for transgressions that happen under previous regimes. Why? Because it doesn't help any argument you may make in support of Big Larry. You'll make excuses/explanations, when it is convenient for you.

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Coker went 60-15 at Miami, more than acceptable at any College in the US.


But, the program wasn't going in the right direction. He might not have been canned had they won 10 games that year.
Posted by That LSU Guy
The boys are back in town.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:31 pm to
I have never seen another fan base so eager to get rid of a good coach and a great person after only 1 bad season. Not to mention a blow out win in their bowl game!
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:32 pm to
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Here ya go Peaches


Why are you using that website?
Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:33 pm to
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Sure he had 1 mediocre/poor season


more than one ..they faded from glory pretty badly and he left the cubbard empty when they fired him... talent level dropped way off under his watch ..much of his success was due to what guys like Butch Davis etsablished at the U

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Coker went 60-15 at Miami, more than acceptable at any College in the US.


wow

clueless
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:38 pm to
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Frick you PJ



AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.........


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You pulled for Bama & your butt buddy Saban last year, and your on record doing so. Blow it out your Big 'ol Roll Tide arse.



SABAN went 12-0 and won the SEC West. Lost to the NC team and DIDN'T show up against Utah. But he is still a better coach.
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:48 pm to
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Who else do you think was coaching those teams? Fidel Castro? Oliver North? Patty Hearst?

You forgot: Chris Penn & Suzanna Hoffs & of course Terri Nunn.
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There wasn't one reason. There were reasons.

Yep, Reason(s). 1. LSU Tunnel Fight & 2. FIU Fight "Reasons".

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What you intentionally fail to mention whenever you bring up Butch Davis is the sanctions imposed on them during his stay there for transgressions that happen under previous regimes. Why? Because it doesn't help any argument you may make in support of Big Larry. You'll make excuses/explanations, when it is convenient for you.


Were they Draconian style sanctions? Exactly how many Scholarships were lost & in what time frame? Could he not field a Top Notch team with Top Players at 'da U in the mid-late 90's? You are trying to make excuses.

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But, the program wasn't going in the right direction. He might not have been canned had they won 10 games that year.

correct, when your Team makes National Headlines & Television News for 2 Nasty Fights, it's the program is headed in the wrong direction. Doesn't matter if he went undefeated, he was gone for that reason.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:01 pm to
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Yep, Reason(s). 1. LSU Tunnel Fight & 2. FIU Fight "Reasons".


And a 6 loss season with losses to powers like Ga. Tech, Virginia, and Maryland.

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Were they Draconian style sanctions?


Depends on what you think Draconian is.

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Exactly how many Scholarships were lost & in what time frame?


From what I've read, Miami took away 7 of it's own scholarships and the NCAA demanded 24 be lost over a 2 year frame.

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Could he not field a Top Notch team with Top Players at 'da U in the mid-late 90's?


There is no telling what you consider top notch.

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You are trying to make excuses.


No, I'm providing information that is critical to the Miami program under Butch Davis. And in times like this, you don't like it. Larry Coker wasn't dealing with sanctions like that. Shouldn't he be more likely to field a top notch team in 2006 as opposed to Butch Davis in 1996?

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correct, when your Team makes National Headlines & Television News for 2 Nasty Fights, it's the program is headed in the wrong direction


And when you are losing 6 games.

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Doesn't matter if he went undefeated, he was gone for that reason.


I seriously doubt, as I'm sure most sane people do, that he would have been gone had they went undefeated.
This post was edited on 7/31/09 at 6:03 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:02 pm to
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but I believe we had more talent than the '06 Florida team...I really do. From top to bottom we were better that year...it wasn't by much...but I really don't think you could say we were worse, that's for sure




I agree that we were probably more talented. What I meant was that there were only 2 teams that could even be argued to have more talent. And I think we win that game if it's in Tiger Stadium. All things being so equal, they lucked out by having that game in the Swamp.



Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:04 pm to
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But I would have never thought we'd lose 5 of them last year along with 3 at home



Me neither. But I never would have thought we'd have gotten the shite QB play throughout the season that we did. Looking back, knowing what we know about how the QB situation turned out, I'd have taken 8-5 with a Peach Bowl win every single day.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:06 pm to
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I agree that we were probably more talented. What I meant was that there were only 2 teams that could even be argued to have more talent. And I think we win that game if it's in Tiger Stadium. All things being so equal, they lucked out by having that game in the Swamp


This I agree with. LSU would have beaten OSU by the same margin as FLA did!!!!

I will say this. Its not how you start, it how you finish. 1969 LSU team is the best off all-time IMO. The way they were playing they would have beaten Texas in the Cotton Bowl. The 2001 team at the end of the year was as hot as fish-grease, And I think they could have beaten Miami.
Posted by Tigerbait337
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
20535 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:09 pm to
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The 2001 team at the end of the year was as hot as fish-grease, And I think they could have beaten Miami.


Slow down there..
Posted by horndog
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:15 pm to
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Frick you PJ..You pulled for Bama & your butt buddy Saban last year, and your on record doing so.


Screw you PJ.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:15 pm to
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Slow down there..


It would have been something like 45-37. Last one with the ball wins kinda game!!!
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:20 pm to
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I have never seen another fan base so eager to get rid of a good coach and a great person after only 1 bad season


they've been eager to get rid of him since 2005...
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:42 pm to
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more than one ..they faded from glory pretty badly and he left the cubbard empty when they fired him... talent level dropped way off under his watch ..much of his success was due to what guys like Butch Davis etsablished at the U


Butch Davis established Miami back when they were relevent?? Really? Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson & Dennis Erickson just not quite as good as 'ol reliable Butch Davis?

The world laughs at your Ocala bumpkin arse.
Posted by Bayoudaddy
Haslet, TX.
Member since Jun 2009
97 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:43 pm to
Not responding to all the others, will just say I would keep Miles until further notice. None of this means crap.
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 7:17 pm to
EXACTLY
Not a coach on this damn thing. None of us really know what it is like in his shoes do we? Otherwise we would be doing something with our lives instead of posting on this stupid board.
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 7:37 pm to
But I never would have thought we'd have gotten the shite QB play throughout the season that we did. Looking back, knowing what we know about how the QB situation turned out, I'd have taken 8-5 with a Peach Bowl win every single day.
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Don't forget about giving-up a TD/game more a game. RP would have been worth at least 1 maybe 2 games, but IMO we still would have lost to GA, FLA and Olepiss. Since 2003 in the SEC we went from 11 ppg to 31 ppg. There were so many long drives against us. MANY of which started in the first quarter when we were fresh.
Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 8/1/09 at 9:16 am to
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Butch Davis established Miami


I said coaches, dipshit ...Miami was a power through most of 80s band 90s to the turn of the millennium ..the momentum was built and the talent was the best in the country annually. That's what Coker inherited

...then eventually he allowed it to fall way off..and then the U started losing games regularly.. those fights were an excuse ...he had been on the hot seat for not winning up to the program's standards
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