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re: How can college officials over 2 qtrs to throw a flag
Posted on 10/12/09 at 12:55 am to WushuTiger
Posted on 10/12/09 at 12:55 am to WushuTiger
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you are talking out of your arse, as usual.
+12 bazillmegagazillion.
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 12:55 am to WushuTiger
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Nobody is saying that. The paragraph covers false starts as well as shifts and spells out scenarios that constitute false starts.
Sure he is - he bolded this as support for his argument:
ARTICLE 4. a. If a snap is preceded by a huddle or shift, all players of the offensive team must come to an absolute stop and remain stationary in their positions, without movement of the feet, body, head or arms, for at least one full second before the ball is snapped (A.R. 7-1-4-I) [S20].
That refers solely to shifts, not to false starts.
I'll ask you, is it possible for a snapper, who has placed his hand on the ball to shift?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 12:59 am to 62zip
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That refers solely to shifts, not to false starts.
Apparently you missed the part that says huddle OR shift...
Posted on 10/12/09 at 12:59 am to 62zip
How do you and arrakis try to crucify golfer on this and at no point over any solid evidence for your objections. Why don't you answer every question you've asked him and provide some sort of citation or even explanation for you counter points?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:00 am to Golfer
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Shifts AND False Starts...
By going to that section, it's ANOTHER example you don't grasp the intent of the rule or the philosophy of application. You just don't get it; but that's understandable.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:01 am to PacLSU
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How do you and arrakis try to crucify golfer on this and at no point over any solid evidence for your objections. Why don't you answer every question you've asked him and provide some sort of citation or even explanation for you counter points?
Try to crucify him? Please.
Why should I answer the questions for him? He provided the citation, he just doesn't know how to read it.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:01 am to arrakis
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By going to that section, it's ANOTHER example you don't grasp the intent of the rule or the philosophy of application. You just don't get it; but that's understandable.
It's crystal clear to us. You are blinded by your own misplaced faith in your own comprehension skills.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:02 am to 62zip
So how should it be read?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:02 am to Golfer
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Apparently you missed the part that says huddle OR shift...
I'll give you a hint. Figure out what [S20] means - that should give you the answer you seek.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:03 am to 62zip
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Why should I answer the questions for him?
Go back and look at the screen shots earlier in the thread and tell me that is not illegal. No one ever answered them.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:03 am to PacLSU
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How do you and arrakis try to crucify golfer on this and at no point over any solid evidence for your objections. Why don't you answer every question you've asked him and provide some sort of citation or even explanation for you counter points?
I did that a LONG way back in this thread. Mr. "I've read the Rule Book" is providing entertainment for us with his continued misinterpretation of the rule. You can't explain anything to someone who *thinks* he knows something, is convinced he does, but doesn't.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:05 am to PacLSU
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So how should it be read?
I'm not even really sure what that means, but this is why it is impossible to have discussion on rules with fans who have no idea how to read the rulebook.
That's like going to Spain and asking some guy how a Spanish book should be read.
It says, what it says. I don't get what you're getting at. Arrakis has done an excellent job already of explaining the entire thing and I'm not going to lay it all back out at 1 a.m. Go through the thread - it's all right there in black and white.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:05 am to arrakis
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with his continued misinterpretation of the rule.
Well to be fair, none of ya'll have interpreted the rule. Just said I was wrong.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:06 am to Golfer
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Go back and look at the screen shots earlier in the thread and tell me that is not illegal. No one ever answered them.
Your screen shots don't prove anything.
Do you expect a flag every time T-Bob points at a defender prior to the snap too?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:07 am to arrakis
quote:Well he's dine a better job if explaining his stance than you have. All we've seen from you are accusations that he doesn't know what he's talking about without any real explanation of why he's wrong.
You can't explain anything to someone who *thinks* he knows something, is convinced he does, but doesn't
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:07 am to Golfer
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Well to be fair, none of ya'll have interpreted the rule. Just said I was wrong.
arrakis has explained it to you.
did you find S20 yet?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:08 am to 62zip
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Do you expect a flag every time T-Bob points at a defender prior to the snap too?
You bet he does....if it's in LSU's favor.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:08 am to 62zip
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I'll give you a hint. Figure out what [S20] means
I know what S20 is...Illegal shift OR Illegal motion.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:09 am to PacLSU
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Well he's dine a better job if explaining his stance than you have. All we've seen from you are accusations that he doesn't know what he's talking about without any real explanation of why he's wrong.
Well, for starters, he's using a section of the rule that refers to shifts to argue about a false start.
Maybe you should figure out what S20 is as well.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:09 am to arrakis
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You bet he does....if it's in LSU's favor.
I'd have this discussion if LSU wasn't involved.
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