re: Honest review of Les Miles

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FROM SPRING TO FALL.

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through fall

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Former players that talk to current ones...

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And you are included in these conversations?

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How do you know?

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This, along with the offense, is not all about overruling play calling or anything like that. It's about the play book! Our plays and schemes look different since Chavis has gotten here. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to tell you. It's the Chief's playbook. Offensively, well its looked the same and has transcended offensive coordinators. I'm saying let a proven OC come in with his playbook. Collaborate all you want, but let someone else's system be implemented.

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I wanted to wait 24 hours to get some clarity, but I think I'm in a position now to say what I truthfully believe about him without any clouded judgment. Let me start off by saying the guy wins and he is a good representative of our university. He also recruits great talent to LSU. After that, he is not relatively good at anything.

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I agree.

I posted the following in another thread, though it may fit here better.

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Here is my take... some may not agree and that's OK.
As a business person/consultant, when things do not add up, you wait and continue to gather facts until "something" emerges. My picture is not complete, but I do not like what is developing...

In the NC game, we totally ignored the OFFENSIVE personnel .. asst coaches, players, etc and Miles, stubbornly, stuck to Jefferson, even though I hear that Jefferson himself asked to be replaced.

Nothing made any sense then and since we have been winning, the absence of OFFENSIVE philosophy has been ignored by all, even myself.

BUT, yesterday's performance tells me that there is much more behind the walls of which we do not know.... it seems as a stubborn and continuous effort to not use OFFENSIVE personnel... (asst coaches and players)...and certainly a diluted OFFENSIVE philosophy...almost as if Miles thinks he can win without input from anyone else.

I think a wedge was driven at the NC game between Miles and the OFFENSIVE "people". Admitting such or bringing that out, such as firing any coaches would mean that Miles had indeed been hard-headed and stubborn, so nothing has happened, or been mentioned. Miles has taken control of the entire team and we are having pitiful performances...as I said, as long as we were winning, all was ignored by all.

There is a saying in coaching " when you are winning, you enemies can not hurt you, but when you are losing, your friends can not help you."

If we were to start losing, I see a lot of stuff starting to come out.
I hope we win and things fix themselves, but frankly, we may be seeing the beginning of the self administered demise of Miles if he sticks to THIS STYLE OF FOOTBALL we are playing.....with USC(e), TX A & M and Alabama, and the other games coming.

Time will tell, but one thing I am sure of is that "something is happening/has hapenned behind the walls between Miles, Asst Coaches and Players.

I sure hope they place the good of LSU first.

Obviously he collaborates with everyone but if you've watched the defense and the way it has evolved since Chavis has been here, then you would know its his system. I'm not saying Miles is a complete novice and can't look into a scheme and make suggestions. I'm simply saying he's obviously incapable of implementing his own schemed or system and running it at an effective level, if you will.

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Obviously he collaborates with everyone

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Thank you.

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if you've watched the defense and the way it has evolved since Chavis has been here, then you would know its his system

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Which is why he was hired. But that doesn't mean that he has free run does it?

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I'm not saying Miles is a complete novice and can't look into a scheme and make suggestions

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Thanks again.

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I'm simply saying he's obviously incapable of implementing his own schemed or system and running it at an effective level, if you will.

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Completely incapable? Of winning 80% of his games?

Why would I look to those people for Miles' perspective?

You made a statement that he didn't understand the gravity of the situation. I argue that the rant doesn't know what the frick it's talking about, generally. This is the rant, and I am responding to you, and you are on the rant. I am responding to the rant implying Les has no perspective by saying the rant has no perspective.

I've exhausted every way I can explain to you why me making fun of you makes sense. When it comes to LSU football, you and many here are emotional and we are all helpless. These two characteristics, left unchecked and with little perspective, leads to statements that are easy to mock.

Continue flailing about this message board. I feel your pain, but it's funny to watch from my chair.

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Les knows what to do to win a nc. I DON'T recall anyone complaining about les offense when russell or flynn were the qb. ITS ALL ABOUT THE QB WITH LES. he is still snakebitten by the jl pic 6 year. the qbs have not performed well and not been developed well. les has won with the style he is using. if we get quality qb play you will see a different type offense.

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If he is snakebitten.. dadgummit.. get over it. Get some therapy or something.

I wanted to wait 24 hours to get some clarity, but I think I'm in a position now to say what I truthfully believe about him without any clouded judgment. Let me start off by saying the guy wins and he is a good representative of our university. He also recruits great talent to LSU. After that, he is not relatively good at anything.

He lets Chavis run the defense, which I commend him for, and tries to implement his philosophy and coaching on what he thinks he knows, the offense. He knows what it takes to win in the SEC. A strong running game, LOS, and a passing game that can manage drives. The problem is, I don't think he knows how to implement the correct play calls or schemes to achieve this effectively. He lacks a general intuition and expertise to what to call on offense.

He could be called an O-Line specialist but would you really say our O-Line plays that well on a consistent basis? Also, he has 0 lineman he has recruited in the NFL today. That's alarming.

He brings just enough to the table to win consistently with his recruiting, but other than that LSU wins off of Coach Chavis' efforts. The man does enough to win and thats fine, but one day he will need to concede that other people know more about offense than him. The last 5 years don't lie.

I agree totally. We need an OC and an O line with balls. Not a lot of fight in our O line. Watch the replay and tell me if any of our O line got pissed because they were getting it handed to them. Hell, they got it handed to them by Towson. What do you think will happen to them the next 4 weeks. Esp. Nov.3rd. Geez Loueezz ! I'm sorry,but this is a team with 4 of the world's greatest backs who rush for 40 or so yards.....WTF.