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re: Hilliard being groomed to be the next big running back

Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:10 am to
Posted by winkie
in yo momma
Member since Jan 2008
937 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:10 am to
quote:

How does playing fullback help your vision?


Vision doesn't improve when you're riding the pine.
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 12:11 am
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22784 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:29 am to
Only thing he needs to learn is blocking. If he doesn't know how to run the ball yet it will never happen. This is the RB position... easiest position to step into as a freshman. It's not rocket science either he is capable or he isn't. You aren't going to teach vision or moves or power or heart.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5426 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:34 am to
quote:

How does playing fullback help your vision?


it doesn't
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162235 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:36 am to
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quote:
it worked for Marcus Allen
and Ricky Bell


And Ricky Williams
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162235 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:37 am to
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This is an excellent concept. It will help improve his vision also and he'll have a better understanding on reading the defense presnap.


Might be good for him to work on his blocking skills that he'll need in pass pro

I know it's not the same type of blocking but it doesn't hurt
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:39 am to
McFadden/Jones/Hillis

Brown/Williams/Jacobs


Peyton Hillis accepted his role as a lead blocker for McFadden and Jones. Brandon Jacobs didn't like his role and transferred. Both still made it to the NFL and have successful careers as ball-carriers. Playing FB isn't an indictment of a player's running abilities especially with so much top shelf competition on the field. Even if Hilliard doesn't get to tote the rock on a consistent basis, he still has the qualities to be successful in the NFL.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:43 am to
quote:

How does playing fullback help your vision?


it doesn't



Playing fullback does make him a better blocker. History shows Les values a well-rounded back over the highlight reel. Hence Hester over Williams, Scott over Williams, and Ware over Ford.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5059 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 2:37 am to
Hester played a lot of fullback early on, and a lot of people were absolutely certain that he couldn't be a running back in the SEC. Joseph Addai also began his career as a fullback against Virginia Tech as a true freshman, so it's not something unprecedented.
Posted by LSUaFOOL
Jackson, La
Member since Jan 2008
1864 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 5:53 am to
quote:

How does playing fullback help your vision?


FB pos is closer to the line of scrimmage so you have less time to react than if you were get'n the ball from the HB pos. So you learn to make reads faster and hopefully once he's in the HB spot the reads should come way easier!
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 7:01 am to
it also rewards a high profile freshman for coming to campus fat and gets him PT before a better fellow true freshman RB. Classic Les.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 7:11 am to
2 deep at FB with lots of question marks prior to Hilliard versus 4 deep at HB with 2 studs prior to Magee. Isn't Odell Beckham getting much more playing time than a higher profile Jarvis Landry? Classic Rantard.
Posted by Big Sway
Member since Nov 2009
5133 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 7:48 am to
It'll be Magee/Hilliard 2014
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 7:57 am to
quote:

I think Hilliard will be a disappointment



You base this on what?


quote:

How does playing fullback help your vision?


You got to be kidding me. So what you are saying is that running at fullback you need no vision. Yes, this hurt Hester greatly
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 8:00 am
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 8:15 am to
its a good way to waste downs by giving him that quick FB dive play for 0.5 yards
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 8:20 am to
quote:

its a good way to waste downs by giving him that quick FB dive play for 0.5 yards



I agree with this. Bring him in with Ware and Shepard at times, swing Ware and or Shepard out and line him up in the TB spot, now we talkin!
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Maximus


i wish i knew how to quit you.
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 8:23 am
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 8:26 am to
hint: look at my location
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 8:27 am to
ok...that was pretty clever
Posted by bulldogger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
2094 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 8:29 am to
He must have shown something in practice, or CLM wouldn't have given him anything. That said, hes looked shaky/dubious at rb and probably would have contributed more at LB.
Posted by TorNation
Sulphur, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2869 posts
Posted on 9/22/11 at 8:54 am to
quote:

So what you are saying is that running at fullback you need no vision


No I never said that. My question is how does playing fullback help improve your vision. I asked that question in response to a post that said playing fullback would help his vision and I just don't see it and I never played fullback then moved to tailback so I simply asked how his vision would improve. I would think the fullback hits a whole so fast that there isn't a lot of reading or setting up of blocks which is what the post had also mentioned so I was just looking for some additional insight to the position.
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