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Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but he was not a better RB than scott
didn't say he was...
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:13 pm to ForeLSU
to assume his versatility makes him a better player isn't a given. he may be a jack of all trades type of guy
hell if i'm comparing hester to anybody RIGHT NOW, it's dickson (who will likely have to play the H-back role hester is)
hell if i'm comparing hester to anybody RIGHT NOW, it's dickson (who will likely have to play the H-back role hester is)
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:18 pm to ForeLSU
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hester was/is a better football player than both, which was reflected in the draft
so JaMarcus is a better player than Brees and Tom Brady?
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:23 pm to tigerswin03
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this shows how stupid some fans are,as much as some hate les miles dont you think there were reasons for kw to be benched.
Where 'da Ball at?
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:24 pm to Sammich
how many times did KW lose a fumble in a game at LSU? once, maybe?
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:24 pm to H-Town Tiger
Jamarcus Russell - drafted in 2007
Drew Brees - drafted in 2001
Tom Brady - drafted in 2000
So you want to compare him to QBs who have been in the leagues 6 years longer than he has?
Better question. Is Russell better than Quinn, John Beck, Kevin Kolb, Drew Stanton, Trent Edwards, etc.?
Drew Brees - drafted in 2001
Tom Brady - drafted in 2000
So you want to compare him to QBs who have been in the leagues 6 years longer than he has?
Better question. Is Russell better than Quinn, John Beck, Kevin Kolb, Drew Stanton, Trent Edwards, etc.?
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:27 pm to chilge1
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So you want to compare him to QBs who have been in the leagues 6 years longer than he has?
no, the standard posed by others is that draft position indicates which player is better.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:27 pm to Sammich
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Where 'da Ball at?
One fumble on the last play of his career totally explains his underutilization for 4 years.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
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so JaMarcus is a better player than Brees and Tom Brady?
yes he is, it's only because Les Miles said "frick Jamarcus" that he sucks so bad today and will be released from the Raiders this week. It's sad really how bad Jamarcus turned out because Les hated him so much...oh, and also somehow because of Moffit.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:30 pm to H-Town Tiger
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no, the standard posed by others is that draft position indicates which player is better.
This obviously only applies to individuals taken in the same draft. I don't care who you are, NFL experience >>> draft position.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:34 pm to ForeLSU
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yes he is, it's only because Les Miles said "frick Jamarcus" that he sucks so bad today and will be released from the Raiders this week. It's sad really how bad Jamarcus turned out because Les hated him so much...oh, and also somehow because of Moffit.
I'm with you. Les' reach extends to places the Rant has yet to discover. I'm pretty sure the smarter ranters will figure out how Les is controlling (or should I say sabotaging?) the entire game of football from the pee-wee level to the NFL. It's why I keep posting here. All of this critical thinking keeps me on my toes.
ETA: How many times have their been wild accusations of blatant racism thrown around in this thread so far? Do we have a running total?
This post was edited on 4/25/10 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:35 pm to chilge1
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NFL experience >>> draft position.
obviously, but that's not the main topic of this thread, you are taking things out of context. The OP and another poster claim Hester being drafted, while Williams was not proves Hester was a better player. I disagree (not this is not a knock on Hester.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but he was not a better RB than scott
You are stupid!!!!
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:39 pm to H-Town Tiger
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obviously, but that's not the main topic of this thread, you are taking things out of context
I was here when the thread started yesterday. I know the topic of the thread. At the end of the day, Hester is the better player because Keiland had a knee injury that cut his productivity. As a result, he received less playing time and Hester more.. unless you buy into the belief that Miles had a personal hatred for KW, it's logical to assume that Hester was the No.1 back because he was better equipped for the position in 2007.
The draft positioning is simply a function of their respective careers.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:41 pm to chilge1
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unless you buy into the belief that Miles had a personal hatred for KW,
Be careful. There are quite a few people that do believe this.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 1:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The OP and another poster claim Hester being drafted, while Williams was not proves Hester was a better player.
in most cases, I would say that getting drafted in the 2nd round vs. not getting drafted generally means something. (injuries or other non-football related stuff not withstanding)
Posted on 4/25/10 at 4:45 pm to chilge1
quote:keiland had a knee injury his whole career? so every time keiland had a 40 yd td run he had a injury to sit him out the rest of the game?
At the end of the day, Hester is the better player because Keiland had a knee injury that cut his productivity. As a result, he received less playing time and Hester more.. unless you buy into the belief that Miles had a personal hatred for KW
Posted on 4/25/10 at 4:52 pm to Stevo
I appreciated Hester. solid FB.
KW had a knee injury, I think it was in his 2nd season. That was it. Lost his speed. Same as another LSU player, VINCENT, who was MVP in a bowl and didnt have a big career after an injury.
The average RB career in the NFL is 4 years. the union retirement requires FiVE years.
KW had a knee injury, I think it was in his 2nd season. That was it. Lost his speed. Same as another LSU player, VINCENT, who was MVP in a bowl and didnt have a big career after an injury.
The average RB career in the NFL is 4 years. the union retirement requires FiVE years.
Posted on 4/25/10 at 4:54 pm to chilge1
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The draft positioning is simply a function of their respective careers.
AND workout.
AND a physical.
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