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re: Herb Vincent responds to GG's column

Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:02 pm to
I'm glad I grew up in a time when reporters only reported the news. If they had an opinion it had to be treated as such and was announced as an Editorial never to be confused as reporting the news. When I read GG's article it reveals most of what he is writing is not the truth because he does not know the facts. I feel sorry for all you young readers who have grown up never experiencing when news was just reported without the reporters opinion involved.

Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35489 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

But it is obvious that at the moment they thought it was permanent, TM very likely told them, "I'm not sitting out, I'll transfer and go pro." That would explain the permanent statements. When he came back and asked if he could still sit out and have coming back on the team as an option, the permanent was no longer permanent.


you got it

Glenn (and a poster on TD) were banking on the Banshen's response to the question as being the end all be all, but it wasn't. He didnt fail a 4th test, therefore, he had the option to stay and serve the suspenion or leave. He chose the latter then changed his mind.
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 12:11 pm
Posted by BlowTideBlow
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
706 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:07 pm to
Get 'em Herb!
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

When he came back and asked if he could still sit out and have coming back on the team as an option, the permanent was no longer permanent.


+100000000

How is this so hard for people to understand?
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Who is this VC fella?


VC is big time. He owns a consulting firm. He consults all kinds of different things. If you need to know what's going on, consult with him.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47445 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

What's the deal?


He's the Rex/DA/Otto of the sports reporting industry.

Say a bunch of controversial anti-LSU stuff and watch his name stay in the limelight because of it.

When it settles down, repeat.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10072 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:20 pm to
"gg looks like such a cheese dick"

So do a lot of TD posters and the threads they created about this
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:23 pm to
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Thank you Herb Vincent.


it's high time somebody put that scum bag in his place. i concede gg's need and right to make a living he just often slams LSU w/o knowing what the hell he is talking about. when he incorrectly slams the university i have a degree from and the university i love, i take major offense. i have sworn to myself to never read anything else by this guy and it will not be hard to continue my boycott. i invite all LSU fans to join me in this endeavor.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32067 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:25 pm to
Oh, and he has degrees from LSU and Tulane
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

I feel sorry for all you young readers who have grown up never experiencing when news was just reported without the reporters opinion involved.


and i feel sorry for america. one of the foremost reasons that our politicians make outlandish and shocking statements against their opponents is that they 100% know that many voters will actually believe them to be true whether there is any truth to them or not. one day all that will be needed to overthrow our government is more dumb voters and more euphamisms.
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17699 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:43 pm to
I was never a GG hater - until I just read the hack piece that douche wrote that Herb was responding to.

Count me now amongst the legions of Rantard GG haters.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3832 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

the altercation following the discussion of the one year suspended is what earned him the "permanent" dismissal. everyones emotions were running high and cooler heads prevailed over the next couple of days
Looks like not many caught this red. Who else was at the presser besides LSU reps, TM and reporters?
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 1:10 pm
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7255 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 1:19 pm to
I don't know anything about any of this shite and i'm not defending a known douchebag. However, after reading GG's column & the almost immediate response from HV, he must have hit pretty close to home somewhere. Seriously, this guy has written some pretty dumb shite over the years that also deserved direct responses.

Check out the following. He writes this as though it's fact:

quote:

Then Mathieu went to Lake Charles, and everything changed. Mathieu returned depressed and asked coaches if there was some way he could come back to LSU for the 2013 season.


Again, writing as though it's factual.

quote:

Mathieu was told he could go to LSU in the fall, but he'd have to pay his own way.


Here he's clearly speculating:

quote:

Then LSU people may have told Mathieu there was a chance he could return to the team in 2013, if only to give him some hope. That is understandable if LSU did that. LSU meant well if it did that, but it was not being straight with Mathieu or with anyone else.



It's almost as though he's telling LSU he knows something and they are telling him to shut up. The last line of HV's response basically says it,:


quote:

Sometimes, when the well being of a young man or young woman is at stake, a little patience, a little restraint and a little more responsibility could serve a reporter — and in turn his readers — well.



Of course....i could just have too much time on my hands today and speculating into speculation could have lead to this damn headache.
Posted by Kickit2Peterson
Central
Member since Aug 2012
247 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 1:43 pm to
Awesome reply. GG is the worst of the worst of all that is awful.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

As did Bahnsen, the compliance director. You know, the guy who is in charge of telling LSU who is eligible and who isn't.


do we actually know what he said, or what GG reported? Because journalists are known for stopping quotes too quickly, or starting them too late to intentionally miss context. Some will even take chunks of text out of a quote.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10283 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 2:59 pm to
I would like to meet GG in person, in a dark alley. I think I could take him.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Herb Vincent

Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 3:11 pm to
quote:


I swear it's like trying to explain colors and shapes to children on here with some people.



you are far too kind.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60824 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 3:14 pm to
What a professional, classy way to say "Shut the f$ck up! You don't know what you're talking about!"
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