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re: Hatch's arm strength compared to LSU QBs in the past

Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:47 am to
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:47 am to
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Are y'all really comparing Hatch's arm strength and velocity to Weurffel's


i'm not sure if its the same poster, but i've read at least 3 comparisons to weurffel's arm every time someone questions hatch's arm strength.
Posted by Santa Clause
123 Fake Street
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:47 am to
I will say it again with the utmost certainty:

Flynn's arm was not much stronger than Hatch's.

In fact, Hatch's may be stronger at this point in his career. The Difference is flynn had good touch and accuracy. Hatch doesn't yet.

Lee is lightyears ahead of both in terms of strength and accuracy, but he IS a FRESH. That said, he is smart. Let's not forget he's a coaches son. He'll learn.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:48 am to
They need to quit doing that shite
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16672 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:49 am to
if flynn's arm isnt that much stronger than Hatch and Flynn is good enough to be a 2nd string QB in the NFL, then hatch is more than adequate for college ball.

not that i'm defending hatch. i'm just making an analogy. i havent seen enough of hatch's arm to make a fair judgement. there might be a reason why hardly any semi-deep balls were called for hatch.
This post was edited on 9/1/08 at 10:51 am
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:50 am to
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from what I have seen to this point hatch is about 70% of Flynn in arm strength.


Something like that
Posted by Santa Clause
123 Fake Street
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:50 am to
its true

i will be the first to say i am surprised at how well flynn is doing. But he did have great coaching.
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:51 am to
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if flynn's arm isnt that much stronger than Hatch and Flynn is good enough to be a 2nd string QB in the NFL, then hatch is more than adequate for college ball.
if arm strength is all that is needed to be a successful QB, then this guy should be starting in the NFL.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61680 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:57 am to
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we don't really need a Jamarcus type of arm strength


There's a lot inbetween Jamarcus Russell and Hatch.

His inability to get the ball to Byrd on the fly pattern concerns me a great deal.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:58 am to
Then what is it about Hatch that makes you think he'll give us less of a passing game than Randall did? Or that he is just cut out to be a good D-2 starter?

There is nothing I've seen about Hatch to say that his arm may be as strong as or stronger than Flynn's.
This post was edited on 9/1/08 at 11:06 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61680 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:01 am to
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Hatch's isn't much worse than flynn.


I disagree with that (except for the games when his ankle was bad).

Hatch's arm is pretty limiting.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Flynn's arm was not much stronger than Hatch's.

In fact, Hatch's may be stronger at this point in his career.


dude, please. There is no way Hatch can make the throw to Davis in the Peach Bowl, or Byrd against Bama or Auburn last year. Or the drill passes against Arky late in the game. From what I've seen, Flynn and Lee are pretty close in arm strength. With that said, I think the offense can do fine with Hatch at the helm...
Posted by Aktig
Alaska/Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:03 am to
Don't care how strong his arm is, as long as he can make the passes required of him. On a scale of 1-10, it's probably six. But as long as you (as a staff) don't ask him to do what he can't, whats the problem?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61680 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:09 am to
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Don't care how strong his arm is, as long as he can make the passes required of him.


So, do you think he can do that?

I'm very doubtful myself. If you can't get the ball to a WR on a 40 yard fly pattern, on the short side of the field, with no pressure, then that tells me that his arm is limiting him.

On a scale of 1-10, it's a 3 IMO.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:14 am to
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If you can't get the ball to a WR on a 40 yard fly pattern, on the short side of the field, with no pressure, then that tells me that his arm is limiting him.


I think he's saying that those throws aren't a requirement for the offense to be successful...
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:22 am to
Perhaps, although that may be at least one limit you have in the passing game
Posted by LSUMONSTER
DALLAS,TX
Member since Oct 2005
2917 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:30 am to
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dude, please. There is no way Hatch can make the throw to Davis in the Peach Bowl, or Byrd against Bama or Auburn last year. Or the drill passes against Arky late in the game


+1.

Rantards don't give Flynn enough credit.


Heck, MF beat out cannon arm, second round draft pick for a back up QB spot in the NFL.
Posted by KjunTiga
Death Valley
Member since Oct 2007
482 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:35 am to
Are you people on crack? One game and Hatch is already a weak arse QB, give the kid a chance. I think he will be fine. The missed passes is more due to learning the offense and timing patterns than arm strength
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61680 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:56 am to
quote:


I think he's saying that those throws aren't a requirement for the offense to be successful...


Maybe not, but we sure relied on that aspect of our offense at times last year.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61680 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Are you people on crack? One game and Hatch is already a weak arse QB


I'm not saying he's a weak arse QB, I'm saying he has a weak arm. I am concerned that it does seem like our offense will have to be scaled back when he's playing.
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 9/1/08 at 12:11 pm to
I don't think hatch has a strength problem.

I think it was his first game and he was just being careful which he was. Took care of the ball very well.

Funny how you guys like to dogged the QB when he managed the game very well.

Hatch put 17 points on the board in the first quarter.

Stop Bashing the QBs.
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