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Has it been tried?
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:24 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:24 am
Was wondering this morning if any team has ever tried a six-receiver look? Is this legal per NCAA rules.
My thought process goes like this. Auburn ran a 3-1-7 defense. Clemson often runs a 3-2-5 defense. If the front three from Clemson struggled to get pressure could you come up with a set with 4 OL and 4 WR’s, 1 TE and 1 RB that could all release into routes?
Obviously would create an unbalanced line and create blitz concerns. That said with how quickly Joe gets rid of the ball and the ability of Moss and CEH to chip blitzing LB’s I was wondering if something like this could work.
My thought process goes like this. Auburn ran a 3-1-7 defense. Clemson often runs a 3-2-5 defense. If the front three from Clemson struggled to get pressure could you come up with a set with 4 OL and 4 WR’s, 1 TE and 1 RB that could all release into routes?
Obviously would create an unbalanced line and create blitz concerns. That said with how quickly Joe gets rid of the ball and the ability of Moss and CEH to chip blitzing LB’s I was wondering if something like this could work.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:25 am to rationaltiger
Check out the A11 offense. I think that's what football will be in 50 years.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:26 am to rationaltiger
I don't believe you could have 6 receivers on a play without a penalty. someone would be covered up
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:27 am to rationaltiger
If someone has tried it, it would be mike leach
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:27 am to rationaltiger
that was the base formation of the secret playbook
its a shame Miles never had the opportunity to unleash it
its a shame Miles never had the opportunity to unleash it
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:28 am to iamandykeim
quote:
I don't believe you could have 6 receivers on a play without a penalty. someone would be covered up
You could have 9 receivers, a QB and a center if you want. But the guys on the line who are not the end man can't go downfield to catch passes.
They can, however, catch passes behind the line. So you could have a complex WR screen game for those guys.
ETA:
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 10:30 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:28 am to iamandykeim
quote:
I don't believe you could have 6 receivers on a play without a penalty. someone would be covered up
That was my thought too. I’m sure you could line up in that formation, but it would have to be a run play.
What the guy above me said. No downfield passes
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 10:30 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:30 am to rationaltiger
quote:
Was wondering this morning if any team has ever tried a six-receiver look? Is this legal per NCAA rules
no, there is number eligibility rules
and someone would be covered up on the line
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:31 am to RidiculousHype
quote:that's basically what I meant. I wasn't talking about personnel - just saying that only 5 guys can go out for a pass, or be a "receiver"
You could have 9 receivers, a QB and a center if you want. But the guys on the line who are not the end man can't go downfield to catch passes.
They can, however, catch passes behind the line. So you could have a complex screen game for those guys
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:31 am to rationaltiger
as long as you have 7 players on the LOS and 5 are linemen...you can do what ever you want with the other offensive players pre-snap...
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:32 am to rationaltiger
quote:
4 WR’s, 1 TE and 1 RB that could all release into routes?
No. Only 5 could go downfield
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:32 am to iamandykeim
The QB would have to line up as a receiver. O-line is 5 plus QB is 6. !!-6 = 5 receivers possible.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:35 am to rationaltiger
If we’re talking about trick plays, my favorite to date is when Arkansas got the little midget guy (Reggie Fish I think) and hid him behind the linemen and gave him the handoff. He got a bunch of yards on the play too.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:39 am to LATECHgradLSUfan
rule book
quote:
Offensive Team Requirements—At the Snap
ARTICLE 4. Violation of each of the following (a-c) is a live-ball foul; the
play is allowed to continue.
a. Formation. At the snap Team A must be in a formation that meets these
requirements:
1. All players must be inbounds.
2. All players must be either linemen or backs (Rule 2-27-4, A.R. 7-1-
4-VIII).
3. At least five linemen must wear jerseys numbered 50 through 79
(Exception: When the snap is from a scrimmage kick formation,
par. 5 below.)
4. No more than four players may be backs.
5. In a scrimmage kick formation at the snap (Rule 2-16-10) Team A
may have fewer than five linemen numbered 50-79, subject to the
following conditions:
RULE 7 / SNAPPING AND PASSING THE BALL FR-73
(a) Any and all linemen not numbered 50-79 who are ineligible
receiver(s) by position become exceptions to the numbering rule
when the snapper is established.
(b) Any and all such numbering-exception players must be on the
line and may not be on the end of the line. Otherwise, Team A
commits a foul for an illegal formation.
(c) Any and all such players are exceptions to the numbering rule
throughout the down and remain ineligible receivers unless they
become eligible under Rule 7-3-5 (forward pass touched by an
official or a Team B player).
The conditions in 5(a)–5(c) are no longer in effect if prior to the
snap a period ends or there is a timeout charged to the referee or
one of the teams.
b. Man in Motion.
1. One back may be in motion, but he may not be moving toward his
opponent’s goal line.
2. The player who goes in motion may not start from the line of
scrimmage unless he first becomes a back and comes to a complete
stop.
3. A player in motion at the snap must have satisfied the one-second
rule—i.e., he may not start his motion before any shift has ended
(Rule 2-22-1-c).
c. Illegal Shift. At the snap, Team A may not execute an illegal shift (Rule
7-1-2-a). (A.R. 7-1-3-I-II).
PENALTY [a-c]—Live-ball foul: Five yards from the previous spot [S19
or S20]. For live-ball fouls occurring when or after the snap
starts during scrimmage kick plays other than field goal
plays: Five yards from the previous spot or five yards from
the spot where the subsequent dead ball belongs to Team B
[S19 or S20].
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 10:43 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:39 am to LSUjhawk
quote:
The QB would have to line up as a receiver. O-line is 5 plus QB is 6. !!-6 = 5 receivers possible.
Or.... The QB lines up as a guard, the center just snaps the ball a few yards back, and the QB bails off the line to get the ball off the ground after the snap.
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