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Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:56 pm to
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IMO, He was at the very least, a top 6 QB in 2018



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Thanks for the laugh Jeaux


Thanks for the bookmark material, Otis.

You are clueless about how good Joe is, and you're jolly about being that damn clueless!!! LOL!!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59867 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:58 pm to
A&M had to lure him away from FSU, a better job in an easier conference. A&M was also desperate to get their program moving in an upward trajectory so of course the terms of the deal were always going to favor Jimbo. That’s why he took the deal. This guy has such a narrow view of college football because he sees everything through a biased childlike fantasy driven prism, things that are easy to see for a normal person go 10 feet over his head.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 7:59 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:59 pm to
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There's absolutely nothing binding Jimbo to A$M and it makes him very easy pickings should he become unhappy at A&M. He can walk away right now with absolutely n penalty for doing so


Which brings me back to my original question of so what? What are the chances that happens? To get so hung up on like that makes it a terrible deal is just silly. Like LSU did with Saban when he worked for Emmert here he did what he had to to get the guy he wanted.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:01 pm to
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A&M had to lure him away from FSU, a better job in an easier conference. A&M was also desperate to get their program moving in an upward trajectory so of course the terms of the deal were always going to favored Jimbo.



I don't understand what's so hard to understand about this.

They've been stuck at a certain level and they're looking to make a big move. You can try to hit on an unknown coach and hope he turns into Jimbo, or you can just pay to get the real Jimbo and live with the results.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:02 pm to
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Yes it did, but it was much more crazy-arse Winston than Jimbo, IMO.



Jimbo's a proven developer of QBs. point blank, period.

the LSU records we're hoping Burrow approaches/ breaks, were all from guys Jimbo developed. he had a couple other 1st round QBs at FSU before Jameis. it's one thing to land highly touted QB recruits, another to actually coach em up to be good college QBs. Jimbo's got a pretty long track record of doing that.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:04 pm to
Was Burrow top 6 in any catagory whatsoever much less enough of them to be considered top 6 overall? And if he was “at least top 6” why not enter the draft? Hed’ve been taken in the first 3/4 rounds if he was the 6th best QB or like you’ve said in the past “a top 5 overall pick and overall #1 in your opinion.”
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:04 pm to
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Jimbo's a proven developer of QBs. point blank, period.


True. He's hit too many times to dismiss it as luck.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:05 pm to
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so what? What are the chances that happens?


With Woodward gone, might be better than many think. The leverage of a buyout is non existent.

He left FSU not long after a championship, what makes you think he wouldn't leave A&M?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:06 pm to
Well O has developed a bunch of QBs in his time too
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59867 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:07 pm to
When you’re dealing with Buckeye there is no logic or rational thought, there’s only insanity and hyperbolic rhetoric. The guy doesn’t know anything about football. I know we say this to people when we argue but in his case anyone who’s seen the things he posts doesn’t need to be in an argument with him to know it’s true beyond doubt.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60027 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:11 pm to
They are hung up on this one detail like its some MAJOR flaw while completing ignoring that it’s extremely unlikely to happen in the first place. It’s the price of doing business. Would not shock me at all if there was no buyout for Saban in his first deal with Alabama.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:12 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:11 pm to
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Thanks for the bookmark material, Otis.


No problem AUNT BEEuckeye Jeaux.

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You are clueless about how good Joe is, and you're jolly about being that damn clueless!!!


You're the only one here that's clueless by believing Burrow was a top 5 QB last year. LOL!!!!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59867 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:14 pm to
Like you said earlier in their position they did what they had to do to make their move. Harbaughs contract at Michigan is ridiculous but the hiring of Hoke was an embarrassment for them so they pulled out all the stops. It’s the same mentality.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:14 pm to
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You're the only one here that's clueless by believing Burrow was a top 5 QB last year. LOL!!!!



Well by his criteria Ian Book was also a top 5 QB.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:16 pm to
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Top 5 or 6, if you believe a QB's job is to lead his offense


Please post our offensive statistics, and how they compare to the rest of the country.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59867 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:17 pm to
“Well by his criteria Ian Book was also a top 5 QB.”

shite by Buckeye’s standards we should have 5 Heisman trophy winners in the last 20 years.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60027 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:19 pm to
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With Woodward gone, might be better than many think.


Then that would be the fault of the new AD/Administration

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He left FSU not long after a championship, what makes you think he wouldn't leave A&M?


Because he was apparently fighting the admins over money for the program. Clemson was really ramping up spending and apparently FSU was not willing to keep up. That shouldn’t be a problem at TAMU
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:33 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283547 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:20 pm to
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They are hung up on this one detail l


So you don't think a bilateral buyout which is contained in most contracts is a big deal?

If it isn't, why don't wee see far more of these unilateral buyouts?

The buyout s a pretty big mechanism to help protect the school. Pretty much 100% of the leverage herecis Jimbos
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:23 pm to
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So you don't think a bilateral buyout which is contained in most contracts is a big deal?

If it isn't, why don't wee see far more of these unilateral buyouts?


In this particular case, it's not a big deal. For a cash-strapped program, it would be a foolish deal to make.

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The buyout s a pretty big mechanism to help protect the school.



I'm quite sure a lot of people involved in those decisions determined that the potential benefits outweigh the risks.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283547 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:27 pm to
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it's not a big deal.


It is if they want to keep Jimbo. There's nine more years on that contract and nothing contractually holding him there.

If the LSU job or Alabama job comes open you don't think it would be tempting.?


shite, the Cowboys job might tempt him in mid season and nothing holding him back
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:30 pm
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