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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:31 am to bencoleman
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:31 am to bencoleman
quote:
I don't feel that the run/pass ratio is that important today as it was back then.
Not addressed to me, but my point was that Orgeron was on thin ice as HC in Sept of '17. And Miles was fired for not having an elite passing game (most people agree).
So, when Canada ran the ball more than any power-5 team in the country (in his first 4 games - 59 times a game), of course Orgeron came unglued.
The boosters who lead the mob against Miles would have shitcanned O in a skinny minute if O didn't put the brakes on Canada's grind-it-out offense.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 9:35 am
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:34 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Nobody cares about specific percentages of pass vs. run, they care about fielding an effective offense that can move the ball consistently and score TDs in the red zone.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:36 am to Damone
quote:The boosters cared. That's why they fired Miles and hired O. O had promises to keep. And 3 million-plus reasons to keep those promises.
Nobody cares about specific percentages of pass vs. run, they care about fielding an effective offense that can move the ball consistently and score TDs in the red zone.
And NO team is gonna score consistently in the red zone against Bama without an elite passing game.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 9:39 am
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:40 am to Madking
quote:
Indiana
LINK /
Pitt
LINK /
Northern Illinois
LINK /
His stock has fallen to nothing if that's the schools that have contacted him. Still not hired.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:40 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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And NO team is gonna score consistently in the red zone against Bama without an elite passing game.
Ok? That's not what I said. I said focusing on specific percentages is a fool's errand. If you are playing a team with a terrible run defense, passing just to keep your passing percentage up is asinine. You play to your opponents weaknesses, whatever they may be.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:43 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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And NO team is gonna score consistently in the red zone against Bama without an elite passing game.
Miles issue with the passing game is he couldn't turn it on when it was necessary. Regardless of balance, you have to be able to throw and run to win championships. This past year the running game was a big issue, as well as the RZ offense.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:45 am to Damone
quote:
Ok? That's not what I said. I said focusing on specific percentages is a fool's errand. If you are playing a team with a terrible run defense, passing just to keep your passing percentage up is asinine. You play to your opponents weaknesses, whatever they may be.
You clearly aren't aware, but 59 running plays a game is off-the freakin-charts for a Power-5 program. You'd have to go back to Woody Hayes to find numbers like that - not sure Woody even ran it that many times.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:47 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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It is on Meyer AND Day. Read much?
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Meyer for giving Day the keys to the offense
fricking idiot. What’s funny is nobody on either side likes you.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 9:49 am
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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And Miles was fired for not having an elite passing game (most people agree).
You have absolutely no fricking clue what you’re talking about. Miles was fired because he wasn’t winning enough games. No LSU fan cares how many times we run the ball if we win the game.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:53 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You clearly aren't aware, but 59 running plays a game is off-the freakin-charts for a Power-5 program. You'd have to go back to Woody Hayes to find numbers like that - not sure Woody even ran it that many times.
Just looked up Woody Hayes' rushing stats for 1955 - The Buckeyes averaged 49.1 rushes per game in 1955.
Canada ran the ball 59 times a game in his first 4 games in 2017.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 9:54 am
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:57 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Literally nobody cares.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 10:01 am to Madking
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Lol so this is how you’re gonna run away from your Ed Orgeron comments?
I’m not running from anything, some of us actually contribute to the US GDP. Your comments are wrong, as usual, and 2017 is still the outlier for being run heavy.
2005 Ole Miss:
208.5 passing ypg
73.3 rushing ypg
2006 Ole Miss:
136.1 passing ypg
125.3 rushing ypg
2007 Ole Miss;
213.8 passing ypg
131.5 rushing ypg
Posted on 5/30/19 at 10:01 am to BayouBengals18
quote:Really... You believe you speak for everybody? How long have you had these delusional thoughts?
Literally nobody cares.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 10:03 am to Madking
quote:
Indiana LINK / Pitt LINK / Northern Illinois LINK /
He wasn’t offered the job to turn down other than Indiana.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 10:05 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Canada ran the ball 59 times a game in his first 4 games in 2017.
First four games of 2017:
57 rushes for 500 yards and 3 TDs against BYU
42 rushes for 222 yards and 4 TDs against Chattanooga
29 rushes for 133 yards and 1 TD against Mississippi State
38 rushes for 151 yards and 3 TDs against Syracuse
That's an average of 41.5 rushes per game and an average of 5.7 yards per rush.
Now let's look at 2018:
37 rushes for 156 yards and 2 TDs against Miami
35 rushes for 184 yards and 2 TDs against Southeastern
42 rushes for 121 yards and 1 TD against Auburn
48 rushes for 218 yards and 5 TDs against LA Tech
That's an average of 40.5 rushes per game in the first four games of 2018 and an average of 4.2 yards per rush. A difference of ONE rush per game and in 2017 LSU actually averaged 1.5 more yards per rush.
Where do you get these made up stats from?
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 10:14 am
Posted on 5/30/19 at 10:10 am to BayouBengals18
“ no LSU fan cares how many times we run the ball if we win the game. “
I wouldn’t say no LSU fan cares, but certainly most of us wouldn’t. While there are certainly many who were disappointed we weren’t more effective throwing the ball, the bottom line always is winning and winning to the point we have a reasonable chance of taking the west every few years. That hadn’t happened since 2012. Way too long for the LSU football we had all grown to expect.
From my vantage point, not much has changed in the last 35 LSU football games. Hopefully, this year will be different.
I wouldn’t say no LSU fan cares, but certainly most of us wouldn’t. While there are certainly many who were disappointed we weren’t more effective throwing the ball, the bottom line always is winning and winning to the point we have a reasonable chance of taking the west every few years. That hadn’t happened since 2012. Way too long for the LSU football we had all grown to expect.
From my vantage point, not much has changed in the last 35 LSU football games. Hopefully, this year will be different.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 10:19 am to BayouBengals18
quote:
No LSU fan cares how many times we run the ball if we win the game.
Some of yall have terrible memories.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 10:27 am to Damone
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That's an average of 40.5 rushes per game in the first four games of 2018 and an average of 4.2 yards per rush. A difference of ONE rush per game and in 2017 LSU actually averaged 1.5 more yards per rush.
Where do you get these made up stats from?
DAMN!
You're right. I was wrong.
(might have had something to do with those tequila shots last night)
Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:21 am to The First Cut
Lmfao lmfao lmfao.. none of that disproves anything I posted. They’re facts they don’t change no matter how much you lie or how many irrelevant and stupid stats you think helps your incorrect and argument. You said Orgeron favors a pass heavy offense, that is completely false. His run pass ratio is almost the same as Les Miles. Posting yards doesn’t mean anything stupid, that has absolutely zero bearing on run/pass ratio. You can leave your shovel at home next time moving goal post isn’t going to save this stupid position.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 11:28 am
Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:23 am to bencoleman
That’s what I kept trying to tell you. You were talking about Canada and I was talking about his comments about Orgerons run/pass ratio.
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