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re: HaHaHa: When did Notre Dame pass LSU?
Posted on 6/2/10 at 12:34 pm to Weaver
Posted on 6/2/10 at 12:34 pm to Weaver
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He also has Oklahoma # 1 after losing how many to the draft. I just don't see it.
Maybe one of the most far reaching number ones ever. What was their record last season? I don't get the choice.
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Posted on 6/2/10 at 12:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Based on what? Kelly may be the most overhyped new thing since Curly Hallman. He hasn't really done anything
REALLY???????? He has been to a bcs game more recently than Miles.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 12:42 pm to dukke v
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REALLY???????? He has been to a bcs game more recently than Miles.
Cincy didn't belong in that game. When Kelly does something at the elite level, I will be impressed. Cincy got humiliated and exposed, like I knew they would vs UF. They were overrated. Kelly may be, we will see.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 12:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Based on what? Kelly may be the most overhyped new thing since Curly Hallman. He hasn't really done anything, even taking Miles out of the equation
Holy fricking shite
Posted on 6/2/10 at 12:47 pm to Weaver
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He also has Oklahoma # 1 after losing how many to the draft. I just don't see it
He had LSU #2 in 2007 after we lost 4 starters to the draft. OU lost 2 starters and 2 guys that missed all last year with injuries.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 12:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Cincy didn't belong in that game
good grief man, they were undefeated in a BCS confernce, they most certainly did belong in the game. The fact they lost bad, to the 2nd best team in a game played a month after the season and without their coach doesn't really tell us much.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 12:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
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good grief man, they were undefeated in a BCS confernce, they most certainly did belong in the game.
Big East.
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The fact they lost bad, to the 2nd best team in a game played a month after the season and without their coach doesn't really tell us much.
It tells us they were a highly overrated team that didn't belong on the field with a real BCS contender in an elite game. They looked like crap.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 12:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It tells us they were a highly overrated team that didn't belong on the field with a real BCS contender in an elite game. They looked like crap.
They didn't have a freaking coach
Posted on 6/2/10 at 1:05 pm to bmy
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They didn't have a freaking coach
Neither did WVU when they beat OU. Kelly had those guys all season long. It was his team you saw get plastered vs UF
Posted on 6/2/10 at 1:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Cincy didn't belong in that game. When Kelly does something at the elite level, I will be impressed. Cincy got humiliated and exposed, like I knew they would vs UF
FLA was the second best team in the country last year.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 1:29 pm to dukke v
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FLA was the second best team in the country last year.
Looks like most of the teams on UF's schedule played "the number two team" better than Cincy. Don't know if you watched that game but Cincy didn't belong on the field. Going off comparison, Cincy "belongs" with Troy, Florida Int and Charleston-Southern.
when Kelly turns ND around, I will be impressed. Not now.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 1:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Going off comparison, Cincy "belongs" with Troy, Florida Int and Charleston-Southern.
I think Cinncy could have beaten LSU last year. Think about it.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 1:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It tells us they were a highly overrated team that didn't belong on the field with a real BCS contender in an elite game. They looked like crap.
I'm sorry a sample of 1 doesn't tell you anything like that. It tells you florida was better than day, that's it.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 1:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Looks like most of the teams on UF's schedule played "the number two team" better than Cincy.
How many times do we have to explain the transitive property is stupid and meaningless? Using that criteria, Tennessee was more worthy of being on the field with Bama than Florida.
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when Kelly turns ND around, I will be impressed. Not now.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 1:55 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I'm sorry a sample of 1 doesn't tell you anything like that. It tells you florida was unbelievably better and the vastly superior, exponentially more talented, better prepared and fundamentally sound team that day, that's it.
I KNOW that is what you really wanted to say.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 2:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Neither did WVU when they beat OU
So, OU was not as good as Florida.
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Kelly had those guys all season long. It was his team you saw get plastered vs UF
a team he hadn't coached in a month, a team that was 1 second away from playing for the NC, then had their coach leave. Circumstances matter and can affect the outcome of a single game. He won 11 games 2 years in a row with a team that had done nothing before his arrival and with limited resources. That's a pretty good record. Time will tell what he will do at ND, but picking them 16th this year is not that big a deal
Posted on 6/2/10 at 2:02 pm to H-Town Tiger
Cincy did deserve to be in a BCS bowl for going undefeated in the Big East but it was a terrible matchup for them. And with it being Tebow's last game, and after what happened to UF in the SECG, Cincy didn't have much of a chance in that game. I'm not sure any team in the nation coulda played with the gaytors that night.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 2:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Based on what? Kelly may be the most overhyped new thing since Curly Hallman. He hasn't really done anything, even taking Miles out of the equation.
Overhyped? The guy turned Central Michigan (a doormat) into a conference champion, and he took Cincinnati to 2 BCS games and one 12-0 season. Cincy didn't have a 10 win season in over 100 years, and he did it twice in back to back seasons.
Do you think Les Miles could have done the same at CMU and Cincy?
No chance. I am interested to see what he does at ND, but it doesn't exactly take a stretch of the imagination that he will turn them into a power in short order.
ND is at a different level in terms of pressure, so that will be a new wrinkle for him. But I laughed when people thought Urban Meyer was small time because his success only at Bowling Green and Utah. Didn't matter - Meyer had a proven recipe for success that could translate to any level in college.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 2:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I KNOW that is what you really wanted to say.
that's cute and probably right, but it in no way means Cincinnati didn't belong in the game or a BCS bowl. Some one has be qualify. The only team really in Florida's class was Alabama. But if you say that Cincy was undeserving, who was not in a BCS game that should have been? Cincy was easily one of the 5-10 best teams and there fore deserving of a BCS bowl berth, no matter how large a gap in over all skill may exist between them and their opponent.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 2:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
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a team he hadn't coached in a month, a team that was 1 second away from playing for the NC, then had their coach leave. Circumstances matter and can affect the outcome of a single game.
did you watch the first half of that game???? No other comment needed.
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He won 11 games 2 years in a row with a team that had done nothing before his arrival and with limited resources. That's a pretty good record. Time will tell what he will do at ND, but picking them 16th this year is not that big a deal
Kelly well may be the new wave Messiah, Jesus Christ and Willy Wonka all reincarnate but he hasn't proven he can put together and coach a team at the elite level. When he does I will be impressed. What he did at Cincy was impressive, no doubt but Cincy isn't ND. The B East doesn't have the athletes or the defense he will see on the next level.
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