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re: Greedy is really letting down his program

Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:00 pm to
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I find it amusing watching people shite on a kid

And it's a lot of the same people that say don't bash the coach because recruits read the board and it hurts recruiting.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16102 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:03 pm to
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some other arbitrary time when his value was perceived as maximized



probably by mid season. The more games you play the greater risk of injury. He was already widely known as a first round talent before the season even started. Maybe playing the entire season moved him up 5-10 spots. Could have just called it in after the Miami game and taken no more risks of injury and take the 5 spot loss in draft slot value compared to his value playing the entire season. It is not just maximizing your value but also minimizing your risk and where those two meet on the chart is what you need to figure out.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:05 pm to
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I find it amusing watching people shite on a kid


really anyone who is shitting on Greedy should be perma banned. No excuse for that.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:06 pm to
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really anyone who is shitting on Greedy should be perma banned. No excuse for that.



I've seen nothing more than people calling him selfish and not a team player.
How could you be banned for that?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
102999 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:08 pm to
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I've seen nothing more than people calling him selfish and not a team player. 

I've seen quitter, bitch, traitor that I can think of.

Eta: removed a word. I was mistaken after a search.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16102 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:11 pm to
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I've seen nothing more than people calling him selfish and not a team player. How could you be banned for that?


well, no that is not shitting on him., It is just his personality type that makes him not a team player and not have feelings of loyalty to the team. People just shouldn't say unreasonable shite about him with no basis
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16102 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:12 pm to
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pussy, bitch, traitor, etc...


people shouldn't be calling him those type names
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
102999 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:14 pm to
I was wrong about pussy or the post was deleted. The others I found.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16102 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:14 pm to
he may have just grown up in a situation where no role models of high character traits to look up to or grew up in a situation where he was very afraid of taking risks

it is something he most likely will grow out of as he becomes more exposed to life experiences
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Bandits58
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2015
3481 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:17 pm to
I’m
Done with his greedy ways!! Good riddance!!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47944 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:21 pm to
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he may have just grown up in a situation where no role models of high character traits to look up to or grew up in a situation where he was very afraid of taking risks



Youre crapping on his character in the above post.

Making decisions to set your grandkids up financially is good character in my opinion.

Youre bashing his character because his choice of turning pro didnt match your expectation of him turning pro.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 10:24 pm
Posted by SEC Grapevine
SEC
Member since Sep 2014
502 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:51 pm to
Devin White and Williams' teammates made it Crystal Clear "Stop": They understand. But 4+ weeks later the HC, instead of touting GWill_29's accomplishments, is spinning something of great value in a negative way. Williams going top 2-3 in the Draft and getting paid is worth a lot to LSU in DBU recruiting value. His NFL success is worth more #LSUFOLIFE. He made a prudent decision. The Avg career in the NFL is 3.5 yrs, less than the free agency clock, and 80% go bankrupt in 3 yrs after leaving. LF skipped the Bowl and should have never played his last year. He should have listened to Marcus Dupree and been a LB. RBs only last an avg of 2 yrs. Now, due to injuries, 2 fights and a suspension, behavior consistent with CTE, his durability is in question, there is talk of trading him or worse, dropping him without pay because of his fights. So no one should ask a Top 10 player to risk doing anything for free.

"Does any head or assistant coach put their lives at risk or go to the players when they take stepping stone jobs and leave?" Well, no and the recruits are left questioning their "honor & integrity" as 'cra_cra Bebe' posited in his 'classless' excoriation of Williams. For example, Adam Henry wooed #1 WR Tyron Johnson in 2015 and bolted a few days later for SF. Getting Johnson was described by local media as 'one of the oddest phenomena in recruiting' how a run first team had so many top WRs. TJ transferred the next year along with 5 other WRs.

Aaron Hernandez played TE with Gronkoski. His career ended at 23 and he committed suicide at 27 in prison. His brain had the most severe CTE ever seen, equal to a 60-70 yr old dementia patient.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
102999 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:56 pm to
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Williams going top 2-3 in the Draft and getting paid is worth a lot to LSU in DBU recruiting value. His NFL success is worth more #LSUFOLIFE

I'm not sure why more people don't realize this. So many have mentioned that LSU gave him room, board, clothes and an education. But, he has made the school a shite load of money and the accolades you speak of will continue to do so. LSU still uses Patrick Peterson and a selling point and that was a long time ago.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13112 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:02 pm to
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Play the game
Posted by SEC Grapevine
SEC
Member since Sep 2014
502 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:04 pm to
Anyone who criticises Tyrann Mathieu needs to stop and read the account of how he grew up dodging bullets and witnessed dozens of his friends gunned down. He has a tattoo for each one. And how he was made a scapegoat when many other players, Simon, Ware, etc. were doing the same thing. He however was in HIPPA protected therapy when JJ and 2 other players broke into his apartment and set up shop, climbing the fence to the gated community and alerting the security guard. "It is Not About the Truth" targeted him. After all that he still gave 1 million to the University who cost him tens of millions and remains an inspiration to millions to overcome poverty and no parents..a father in jail for life for murder, and mother who did not want him. Read his autobiography before you judge from your "mommy & daddy" always standing by worlds.
Posted by SEC Grapevine
SEC
Member since Sep 2014
502 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:14 pm to
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Mike Detillier, a close friend of Orgeron's. "We're hardheaded Cajuns. We like to micromanage everything. We think we can do it better than anybody else

Cra-Cra joined the night O got the word a day before it was announced: 11/25/16. He posts as passionately as a brother:

A long time family friend said: "I expect to be competing for championships. Remember, he came in and was able to tweak an offensive system somewhat, but it wasn't his system. They set records under him and this was just with tweaking an older system. Now, he'll be able to bring in his system or the new offensive coordinator's (Matt Canada) system and they'll have all summer to work on it. I expect great things. Look, Alabama will be Alabama and that's the game he's got to win, but I believe he will be competing for championships."

Cra Cra defending Bay Bay

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Bama envy, butt hurt fan. So, the sole way you measure a program is by how many points they’ve scored vs BAMA? That’s it right? How many coaches haven’t beaten Bama consistently? Thankfully , you’re not in charge. By that measure, you’d be hiring a new staff and running LSU into the ground. Idiot. This board is so full of stupid people. It’s sickening !!! And the thing about idiots is that they don’t know their (they’re... fixed) idiots. Coaching football at LSU is a thousand times more difficult that any of you can comprehend. These threads are nothing but stupid bait set up by stupid people. Deal with this. O, Aranda, and Ensminger are not going anywhere. They have done a very good job leading this program. They all want more.(????$$????) They all want the program to achieve an elite status. We’re almost there. So as fans, we can either be a part of the solution or a part of the problem. There is no grey area. Being a 10 win team consistently in the SEC is a task that hardly any of you have the ability to understand. O is there. Now, it takes all parts to come together to be a playoff program. Fans are a part of that. Either you are too dumb to see that or just refuse to. Choose to Be a part of the solution. Stay in the stands. Support the coaches. Recruits listen. Reduce the negativity. Recruits listen. A few players here and there at this level make a difference. Or just be stupid.



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It's about honor and integrity... which is slowly evaporating out of our society. LSU helped Greedy with his education... with his development as a player, etc. His teammates also invested in him. To walk out on your coaches and team is just classless. End of story.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 11:18 pm
Posted by TigerScott13
Clarksburg, MD
Member since Nov 2011
177 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:39 pm to
Greedy will be Morris Claiborne 2.0
Posted by Waterboy1972
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
1136 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:56 pm to
I hope his character and lack of team player ness makes the rounds in the NFL. I would love to see him go bust at the draft especially since this fellow is not a player for a team of which I’m a fan.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16102 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:58 pm to
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Youre crapping on his character in the above post.


no I am not, you just dont' like what I have to say
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Making decisions to set your grandkids up financially is good character in my opinion.

and what in the world makes you think he wouldn't be able to do that if he played in the bowl game? You know the Nfl
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Youre bashing his character because his choice of turning pro didnt match your expectation of him turning pro.


NFL doesn't hold it against you if you play in your bowl game?

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Youre bashing his character because his choice of turning pro didnt match your expectation of him turning pro.


WHERE DO YOU EVEN COME UP WITH THis shite? WTF are you even talking about? "My expectation of him turning pro blah blah blah… " I don't even know what that is supposed to mean and I am sure whatever you mean by it, MY BRAIN DON'T work like that. Sounds like some psycho babble bull shite you read in some retard book

it is laughable, look I am laughing lol 2 times plus a while we at it.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16102 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:07 am to
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Every poster that says he should play, if it were their kid in this situation they would have the kid locked in a room, and not allowed to move until the contract was signed.


bull shite, if he were my son I would bitch slap his arse and tell him to act like a man and that he was embarrassing the family name.

let me start over: if he were my son he wouldn't be acting like this because I Would of taught him about respect and what it is to be a man of good moral character
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