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re: Greatest Tiger by decade?

Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:12 pm to
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TM7. At no time did i say he wasnt.



So he's the best in lsu at forcing turnovers, the most important thing a defensive player can do, but is eliminated from the best player conversation, because you feel forcing fumbles is meaningless and random.

Brilliant logic
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:13 pm to
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You are SOOO Stupid.


Personal attack.

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TM7 was THE most important piece for the BEST season Miles had at LSU..


Show me where i he wasnt.
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Without him against BOTH ARKIE and UGA.. LSU most likely losses


Agreed. Never said otherwise.
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God you are A dumbass.........

Personal attack
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LF7 has NOT led LSU to ANY important wins... ZERO.................


Team accomplishment.

But hey weve already established that you have no clue what an individual record is in cfb.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 8:14 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:13 pm to
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I said the stat of ff is meaningless when comparing it to the main lsu stats.

Uhhh... Wow.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:15 pm to
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Uhhh... Wow

At no time did i ever say FF fumbles or turnovers in games were meaningless.

I said ff stats are meaningless compared to main lsu stats.
Thats what 1 meant.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94799 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:16 pm to
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AJ Duhe 70's
Leonard Marshall 80's


Great players, no doubt. Marshall was diagnosed with CTE in 2013.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:17 pm to
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So he's the best in lsu at forcing turnovers, the most important thing a defensive player can do,


I never said turnovers or ff in game were meaningless.

I meant the stat of ff is meaningless when compared to the main lsu stats.
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but is eliminated from the best player conversation, because you feel forcing fumbles is meaningless and random.


FF STAT ompared to rushing yards in a season or tds in a season.
Posted by LSUPsych-ops
Metairie
Member since Jan 2013
51 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:18 pm to
I took your title to mean all athletics. I would add:
60s - Pete Maravich
90s - Shaq
2000 - Seimone Augustus
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:19 pm to
My post from earlier...


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Because no one considers forced fumbles as a stat that elevates players when comparing. Ff are also subjective as frick when they are given to players. Who leads the nfl in career forced fumbles? Dont act like you know.

You know who leads the nfl in career rushing.

I will amend my statement for you.

As much as i love tm7 he doesnt own Ny lsu records that are meaningful in my eyes. Tackles,ints,tfl,sacks. Better?


I was clearly comparing the stats and what imo were more prestigious.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:19 pm to
If anything, your argument about forced fumbles actually hurts you in this situation, which is why I asked you to tell me which of his forced fumbles shouldn't be attributed to him.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:20 pm to
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If anything, your argument about forced fumbles actually hurts you in this situation, which is why I asked you to tell me which of his forced fumbles shouldn't be attributed to him


I was not saying he didnt deserve ff.

I was clearly comparing the more prestigious stat.

Thats it.
In no way did i ever say ff and turnovers in a game are meaningless.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:25 pm to
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yes they are.


Did you really just say that facts are subjective?

You either nees to learn the definition of subjective or learn what makes a statement a fact.

In no way are stats subjective.
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1656 as A freshman with 16 td's...As usual..you are wrong.........



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1656 as A freshman with 16 td's...As usual..you are wrong.........



and as usual you have no fricking clue what youre talking about. Hilliard never had 16 rushing tds in a season.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 8:26 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:26 pm to
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was clearly comparing the stats and what imo were more prestigious.


No, you clearly eliminated him, because, by your own words, he didn't hold any lsu records (which was false). Then you proceeded to idiotically diminish arguably the most impressive record in lsu history

Furthermore, it completely ignores the possibility of each position to impact the record books.

But you said yourself that TM7 was the best in lsu history at forcing turnovers. Sounds like a pretty damn important thing to be the best at.

We'll just ignore the other aspects of his game. He was great in a ridiculous amount of categories which is almost unheard of for his position.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288553 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:26 pm to
You are getting owned in this thread. Holy shite man. Take a break
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:28 pm to
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was not saying he didnt deserve ff.

I was clearly comparing the more prestigious stat.


Sounds pretty subjective.....

And one got a player selected as a Heisman finalist, sounds pretty prestigious......
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29661 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:30 pm to
I'm going lineman in 1990's I'll let the Rant pick between Kevin Mawae or Alan Faneca. Look at Faulks production the year after Faneca went pro.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:31 pm to
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No, you clearly eliminated him, because, by your own words, he didn't hold any lsu records



And then i said ff.
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Then you proceeded to idiotically diminish arguably the most impressive record in lsu history


What? Lf had the 2nd most rushing yards per game in sec history.
I place rushing yards over ff as a stat.

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But you said yourself that TM7 was the best in lsu history at forcing turnovers. Sounds like a pretty damn important thing to be the best at.


LF is the best rb in lsu history.
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e'll just ignore the other aspects of his game. He was great in a ridiculous amount of categories which is almost unheard of for his position.


there is a db this year with 6 ff. but hey.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:33 pm to
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Sounds pretty subjective.


Of course it is. Picking which player is better that dont play the same position, is always subjective.

TM7 is my 4th favorite tiger of all time behind Faulk, LF, reed, tm7.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:34 pm to
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You are getting owned in this thread. Holy shite man. Take a break


What? I cant be owned when im using my opinion on which player is better.

I never said ff are meaningless in a game.not once.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:34 pm to
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there is a db this year with 6 ff. but hey.


Did he do it back to back years?

How many interceptions, TDs, TFL, sacks, tackles, etc?

Did you even read what I posted?

You quoted it:

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just ignore the other aspects of his game. He was great in a ridiculous amount of categories which is almost unheard of for his position.


Derp
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 8:37 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:34 pm to
Did I ever say rushing????? Quit dude... the FACT that you think stats say EVERYTHING shows how little you really know about the game of football.......
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