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re: From NCAA rules: Ball possession definition

Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:27 am to
quote:

uh, I hate to break the bad news to you, but Mond was the ONLY person to have possession. He never lost it to anyone else. Once his knee hit, he was down


He didn't have possession until AFTER the knee, fool. Up to that point, the only person to have possessed the ball was the center, actually.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:33 am to
The good news is from now on whoever touches the fumble first gets it as long as their knee is down.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:43 am to
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I thought this was going to be about the fumble


it applies to both calls and they applied it wrong, against LSU, in both cases....
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:44 am to
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So when there is a bad snap And the qb runs for the ball he can just slide and touch the ball while on ground and the play is over as soon as he touches it.


That’s how those idiots called it. If a center snaps the ball over the QBs head and the QB runs and slides and grabs the ball, but then jumps up without the ball before the whistle blows and the other team scoops the ball up and scores, then I guarantee that they won’t review that play and call it down.
Posted by Game2620
Canada
Member since Dec 2013
1460 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:48 am to
Bad calls happen in athletics. It’s part of the game.

To have this many game-altering bad calls is embarrassing. This play, the illegal formation which should have resulted in a re-do after the play had run, the catch/fumble, the blowing a play dead when LSU is blowing it up and then waive the penalty, the missed false start, the baloney PI. Think about the emotional and mental toll this takes in the players.

I’m in the boat the OT should never have happened

LSU went 4-1 Saturday night.
Posted by LSUexile
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2004
541 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:57 am to
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I’m in the boat the OT should never have happened LSU went 4-1 Saturday night.


^^^ This
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4538 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 7:58 am to
Seems to me at the time he did not have possession. Anyway what really hurt, in addition to the int being overturned, was stopping the clock. They put 7 seconds back on the clock and ran off 10. No way would they have gotten organized and gotten a play called
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16377 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:06 am to
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So Giles punt was not a fumble?? He touched it and he was in mid dive??


Good point. That maybe should have been ruled down and an LSU possession because his knee was down when the ball hit him.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:20 am to
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When punt or kick returners bobble the ball, and pick it up and then run with it, are those listed as fumbles in the stats?


A loose snap by definition is a live ball fumble

A punt isn’t

And by your logic, if the punt returner was down on one knee and the ball bounces off his hands he should be down right? Why doesn’t every returner just try to catch it on one knee then, all it has to do is hit them and the play is dead, right?
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13888 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:22 am to
quote:

If 3 fingers on a ball is now possession,


then Sternberger's catch was certainly a catch since he had 10 fingers and two palms on it after taking 2 steps
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:01 pm to
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When Matt Ryan fumbled against the Saints

You do know they play by different rules, right?

Maybe that's your problem
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:02 pm to
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A loose snap by definition is a live ball fumble

Then his fumble would be listed in the box score, right?

And yet it isnt
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27378 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:05 pm to
The knee down thing is a judgment call that went A&M's way. It happens.

However, the fumble ruled incomplete was a game defining wrong call. Even my aggy cousins admitted that was the wrong call and LSU, by the rule, should have won on that play.

Don't tell the agtards on the SECR that though, they are swimming in their retardation the last few days.
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