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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:39 am to WhoDatNC
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Coaching is the difference
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There’s been one constant the past few years at LSU.
if our coaching is consistently bad, even after constant annual turnover you have to look a little deeper, who's hiring/approving or influencing who's being hired?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:48 am to jeffsdad
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Our non-fans are almost as stupid as our fans.
You're being stupid here mate. If O is supposedly one of the best recruiters in the business you reload, not rebuild. After 21 went pro in 2020 there's adjustments but it shouldn't be a 5-5 team. No way no how with supposedly one of the best recruiters in the business. Look at the gumpers. 5 FIRST ROUND draft picks from their offense and they look just as good without them.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 8:49 am
Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:55 am to Rocco4
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Any coach who doesn't have LSU in the top 5 year in year out with the talent you recruit is a shitty coach..Plain and simple, there's really no debate.
LSU only has two coaches in it's entire history with more than one season of a top 5 ranking in either major ranking service. No Saban is not one of them.
Paul Dietzel with 3 1958, 1959, 1961
Les Miles with 4 in 11 years, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2011
Coaches who had only 1
Bernie Moore-1936
Mike Archer-1987
Nick Saban-2003
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 9:56 am
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:00 am to Rocco4
Damn, it kind of hurts more coming from an outsider. But frick it's a true as true can be.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:02 am to ibleedprplngld
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Damn, it kind of hurts more coming from an outsider. But frick it's a true as true can be.
where were outsiders like that when I was being Captain Obvious?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:04 am to 777Tiger
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where were outsiders like that when I was being Captain Obvious?
I think everyone who's paid attention over the past 10 years knows this is true. I've thought this team should be a perennial top 5/NY6 team since before Miles' decline. It just stings a little more knowing people who aren't fans believe the same thing.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:06 am to ibleedprplngld
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It just stings a little more knowing people who aren't fans believe the same thing.
it doesn't take being part of a fan base to realize this, we are the butt of cfb jokes right now, and typically are for squandering the talent that runs through our program year in and year out
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:08 am to 777Tiger
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if our coaching is consistently bad, even after constant annual turnover you have to look a little deeper, who's hiring/approving or influencing who's being hired?
That's such a bullshite argument, but I suppose it's the only ones the O lovers have left. The head coach is 100% responsible for hiring his staff. The AD is 100% responsible for hiring the head coach.
Don't try to spin the blame of failed coordinators off on anybody else.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 10:09 am
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:10 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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The head coach is 100% responsible for hiring his staff.
should be, but that isn't the case, O said he didn't hire Pelini
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The AD is 100% responsible for hiring the head coach.
that's what I was alluding to, that's where the buck should stop
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:23 am to 777Tiger
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should be, but that isn't the case, O said he didn't hire Pelini
He said he didn't INTERVIEW Pelini. He also said, had he interviewed him, he would have still hired him.
That does not equal O isn't hiring his coordinators.
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that's what I was alluding to, that's where the buck should stop
I know exactly what you were alluding to. You are looking to shift the blame off of O for shitty coordinator hire after shitty coordinator hire, and place it on someone else. That's what idiots like you do.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:29 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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That's what idiots like you do.
now there's a classic TD slam! fight me punk! that is if the teacher will let you out of study hall for about 1-2 minutes Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:51 am to 777Tiger
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That's what idiots like you do.
now there's a classic TD slam! fight me punk! that is if the teacher will let you out of study hall for about 1-2 minutes
So your only refutation of what he said about the silly statements you made is the he hurt your feeling?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:55 am to 777Tiger
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now there's a classic TD slam! fight me punk! that is if the teacher will let you out of study hall for about 1-2 minutes
You know you can't respond to the shitty take you had anymore when this is what you have to resort to.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 11:00 am to mdomingue
Silly? Yeah, you’re right, suggesting that whoever makes coaching hires, be it the AD or the HC, should be held responsible/accountable is pretty outrageous.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:12 pm to 777Tiger
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Silly? Yeah, you’re right, suggesting that whoever makes coaching hires, be it the AD or the HC, should be held responsible/accountable is pretty outrageous.
Except that wasn't what you did. You suggested the AD made a hire the HC made and tried to shift the blame from the HC to the AD.
As evidenced by the snippet below
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should be, but that isn't the case, O said he didn't hire Pelini
He said he didn't INTERVIEW Pelini. He also said, had he interviewed him, he would have still hired him.
That does not equal O isn't hiring his coordinators.
I'll go further than the poster did, though the implication is there. If O said "he would have still hired him" if he had interviewed him sounds like he is the one who hired him. It doesn't make it sound like anyone else did in any way whatso ever.
Continue to try to deflect.
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